The Apple and the Thorn (Tales of Avalon) and over one million other books are available for Amazon Kindle . Learn more


or
Sign in to turn on 1-Click ordering.
or
Amazon Prime free trial required. Sign up when you check out. Learn more
More Buying Choices
Have one to sell? Sell yours here
or
Get a £2.10 Amazon.co.uk Gift Card
The Apple and the Thorn: A Timeless Tale for the Ages
 
 
Start reading The Apple and the Thorn (Tales of Avalon) on your Kindle in under a minute.

Don't have a Kindle? Get your Kindle here, or download a FREE Kindle Reading App.

The Apple and the Thorn: A Timeless Tale for the Ages [Paperback]

Emma Restall Orr , Walter William Melnyk
5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (3 customer reviews)
Price: £13.95 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery. See details and conditions
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o
In stock.
Dispatched from and sold by Amazon.co.uk. Gift-wrap available.
Only 1 left in stock--order soon (more on the way).
Want guaranteed delivery by Tuesday, May 29? Choose Express delivery at checkout. See Details

Formats

Amazon Price New from Used from
Kindle Edition £3.59  
Paperback £13.95  
Trade In this Item for up to £2.10
Trade in The Apple and the Thorn: A Timeless Tale for the Ages for an Amazon.co.uk gift card of up to £2.10, which you can then spend on millions of items across the site. Trade-in values may vary (terms apply). Find more products eligible for trade-in.


Product details

  • Paperback: 300 pages
  • Publisher: Thoth Publications; illustrated edition edition (16 Dec 2007)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 187045068X
  • ISBN-13: 978-1870450683
  • Product Dimensions: 21.1 x 13.5 x 2.3 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (3 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 194,076 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
  • See Complete Table of Contents

More About the Author

Walter William Melnyk
Discover books, learn about writers, and more.

Visit Amazon's Walter William Melnyk Page

Product Description

White Dragon Magazine, No. 54, Samhain 2007

"The story itself is thoughtful, surprising, and emotionally affecting. The writing style is vivid and luscious . . . an inspiring read." (Reviewed by Bryn Colvin)

Product Description

The Apple and the Thorn
Synopsis

This story is not true in the sense that most people use that word. It emerges out of the mists of time, rooted deep in the heritage of Britain and western spirituality. It is a weave of mythologies, theologies, traditions, and histories. It is the story of two people, and a story of our peoples. It has no beginning, and it has no ending.

The story stands upon the traditions of two mythical characters: the Lady of Avalon, and Joseph of Arimathea. But the land is itself a living character in the tale, as is the surrounding marsh, the invading Roman legion, and a very special cup of blue glass that unites them all.

The legend of the Lady emerges from the Arthurian literature, but predates and underlies the story of Arthur by some four hundred years. Vivian is a Lady who is already the stuff of myth by the time Arthur meets the Lady of the Lake. She is the sovereignty of the land itself, the spirit of the mud and dark water of the marshes, seer of an ancient people, priestess of the Isle of Mist, and keeper of the apples. She clings to the ancient earth for her people at a time when the old Druids are finding new connections to a Roman culture they are no longer able to defeat.

At the time of the tale, which we would today name as 45 CE, the Roman invasion under Emperor Claudius is two years old. Vespasian is leading the II Augusta Legion across the southwest of Britain, fast approaching the great inland sea, which is the realm of Avalon. Ancient Britain will soon be Roman.

Into this ferment comes Joseph of Arimathea, great-uncle of Jesus of Nazareth. Traditions of Joseph abound in the Cornwall and Somerset regions of England. Joseph, the Cornish tin and lead merchant, mine owner and supplier of metals to the Roman military across the Empire. In this tale we make use of one particular tradition that says Joseph was indeed born in Cornwall, a Jew of the Diaspora, and only later went to Palestine in his capacity of trader in tin. There he became Minister of Mines for the Roman army, a worldly-wise merchant who knew the Mediterranean world, and much of the Roman leadership. In this tale, he is known by a Cornish name, Eosaidh of Cornualle.

According to tradition, Eosaidh made many trips from Palestine to the mines of Cornwall and the Mendip hills north of Avalon, and on some occasion brought his nephew with him. Eosaidh, Vivian, and "the Lad" have all met before, years before this tale begins. And Vivian has already had profound, but different, influence upon them both.

The underlying images in the tale are the Cup of Life, later to become known as the "Holy Grail," the Apple trees of sacred and fertile Avalon, and the Hawthorn staff of Eosaidh's tradition. It is a tale of the coming of the Jesus tradition to the ancient world of Avalon, and what happens when these worlds collide. But there is unexpected conflict, too, when Eosaidh is confronted with the new "church," bringing a cult of Jesus that even he cannot accept. In the end, Eosaidh must chose between Avalon and Jerusalem, between two loves.

And this is truly a love story. For the worldviews that meet, and clash, and dance and clash again do not do so in the abstract. Eosaidh and Vivian are flesh and blood. Their struggle to understand one another, and indeed themselves, takes them out of the realm of theological debate into the whirlwind of human emotion.

As the tale unfolds, Vivian and Eosaidh discuss the story of the Lad, and explore together questions of the nature of God, humanity, gender, honor, hope, history, ethics, spirituality, and, always, the underlying presence and meaning of the land. They alternately succeed and fail in understanding each other. They fall deeply in love, are separated by the tides of circumstance, find each other, and are separated again. The growing depth of their intellectual connection is matched by the growing depth of their heart longing. What would be a work of theology becomes instead the most powerful of love stories. And this is as it should be.

The work is a collaboration between a British Druid leader, Emma Restall Orr, and an (admittedly unconventional) American Episcopal Priest, Walter William Melnyk. We chose this format in order to allow the characters of Vivian and Eosaidh to be as genuine as possible. We both wrote our own characters in the first person, present, and alternated narrator responsibility chapter by chapter. There is much autobiography in the characters. Indeed, so powerful was the experience that, as the tale was concluded, Melnyk resigned from his ordination in the Church to follow Eosaidh into the marshes of Avalon.

An epilogue brings the ancient tale into the reader's present day, because the tale indeed has no end. The theological debate, the human struggle, and the longing of the human heart are all as real and meaningful in our own time as they were for Vivian and Eosaidh. The Lady of Avalon and the Tinner of Cornwall are all of us, and we are they.
Emma Restall Orr
Walter William Melnyk
© 11 April 2005


Tags Customers Associate with This Product

 (What's this?)
Click on a tag to find related items, discussions, and people.
 

Your tags: Add your first tag
 

What Other Items Do Customers Buy After Viewing This Item?


Customer Reviews

4 star
0
3 star
0
2 star
0
1 star
0
Most Helpful Customer Reviews
20 of 20 people found the following review helpful
Format:Paperback
This Review has been written and submitted through WW Melnyk by Peter Neall:

Reviewed by Peter Neall

I very much looked forward to getting and reading 'The Apple and the Thorn'the first attempt at a novel written by Emma Restall Orr, one of the
foremost Druid teachers in the UK whose teaching I have long admired and Walter William Melnyk, a former minister in the Episcopal church in the USA with a long and deep interest in Druidry and its influence on Christianity.

So when I did get it I dived in eagerly. I was expecting a story about the deep history of Britain, its myths and characters who exerted a profound influence on our later collective psyche. I got those in a story rich in myth, characterisation and history. The story is told by each of the two main characters in their own distinctive voice.

Joseph of Arimethea, known as Eosaidh in the book, comes to England in his job as a trader and traveller and meets Vivian, the High Priestess of the Goddess at Avalon. Their meeting has a profound effect on them both and this story begins when Joseph, ready to cease from his travelling, comes to end his life in the West Country. Here he encounters Vivian again and their story of love and honour unfolds in the context of the ending of one world and the dawn of another as the Romans invade and change England forever.

Like all good stories once begun I could not put it down , it drew me in and I wanted to know what happened. But more than that it surprised and even shocked me. Even in the compulsion of wanting to know what happened I had to pause, to wait as if for breath and let the story happen to me before continuing.

Vivian describes the land, my land as only a priestess can and I am drawn to see and feel things locked deep in my memory that I had forgotten I remembered. Mud between the toes, darkness, real darkness of the sky at night and the sounds and touch of the marsh, of water and of the land. It is not the description of the land it is the gift of the land.

There is more - as she shows Eosaidh the difference between men and women my eyes are opened and my breath hurts. I am given a secret which has been before me all my life that until now I have never seen so clearly.

Eosaidh's response is authentic and honourable in a new deeper sense of the word that goes beyond our normal usage. I hear his voice, feel the turbulence in his heart, and the deep longings of his soul as if they were mine.

The book gives me more than a wonderful story. Today I looked at the land and the people I live with differently. That is a gift worth reading for.
Comment | 
Was this review helpful to you?
4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
By Red Fox
Format:Paperback
This is no ordinary re-telling of the Avalonian current. In fact it is not a re-telling at all, it is a telling. This book feels like it has been midwifed by the authors as the Land struggles to make Herself heard in the present age. It is a telling that is rooted deep in the land of Britain and Her mythic heart of Affalon. It feels as if the book has a spirit of its own as the authors become the Lady of Affalon and Eosaidh as the dark swirling currents of the marshland forever swirl about them and the reader. The book speaks directly to the soul and takes the reader to a reality that is timeless, a reality that is Earth born. Its the most awe inspiring work i have ever read and has left me emotionally drained. It has the truth of the Land as a living being deeply embedded in it. It speaks of love that spans the aeons and the devastation that can follow if that love is not allowed to flourish. It is a love between souls and the love that must exist between us and the Land in order for us to be true to ourselves and each other. The book is written in such a way that you cannot help but become one or the other(Eosaidh or Vivian)in the reading of it, so what it must have been like for the writers to bring this telling to birth is unimaginable.
The Land shows us the disharmony that can result when the Lands own story and truth is ignored and our own predilections are projected on to Her, or worse, away from Her. If you are at all moved to walk the way of and listen to our Ancestors, the spirits of Affalon, the Land of Britain, The Lady then this beautiful book will inspire you and tear you apart at the same time. If i could give it more than five stars i would. It really is that good.
Comment | 
Was this review helpful to you?
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
By Greycat
Format:Paperback
It's hard to put into words just how this book feels. It truly is an experience to read - the narrative voices seem to whisper in your ear, telling their story from the mists of the past, compelling you to listen.

The richness wetness of the marshes, the barren sands of the desert, the sensation of heartbreak, the closeness of death... all are described so simply and yet so powerfully that you, as reader, are drawn in.

It's not an easy read, however. This books demands attention, presenting the experiences and various controversial ideas in such a way that you question your own beliefs, what you 'know' to be true. 'It's just a story' doesn't cut it here. You're taking part, questioning what decisions you would take as the characters do. Life is reflected in the tale, beliefs and feelings, far more than just the usual 'he did this' or 'she said that'.

As you invest, though, so you are rewarded. The story may be an old one, but it becomes so new, is made so real, that it's not even vaguely a 'fantasy'. Instead it holds a light up to a dark time, highlighting common lived human experience throughout history (and story), and creating a truly memorable book.

This has stayed with me, and I've already started reading it again.

[...]
Comment | 
Was this review helpful to you?
Search Customer Reviews
Only search this product's reviews

Customer Discussions

This product's forum
Discussion Replies Latest Post
No discussions yet

Ask questions, Share opinions, Gain insight
Start a new discussion
Topic:
First post:
Prompts for sign-in
 


Active discussions in related forums
Search Customer Discussions
Search all Amazon discussions
   
Related forums


Listmania!

Create a Listmania! list

Look for similar items by category


Look for similar items by subject


Feedback


Amazon.co.uk Privacy Statement Amazon.co.uk Delivery Information Amazon.co.uk Returns & Exchanges