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  • Audio CD (1 Aug 2005)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Extra tracks, Original recording remastered
  • Label: Commercial Marketing
  • ASIN: B0002W195Q
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (12 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 100,835 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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BBC Review

Fated to reside in the popular consciousness as a one-hit combo (they did, in fact, manage three top thirty flurries), and with celebrity fans such as Bjork coming out of the woodwork, the time may be finally ripe to reassess this mercurial Scottish duo. Alchemised from the pairing of Billy Mackenzie's death-defying vocals and Alan Rankine's unconventional instrumentation, The Affectionate Punch was their first major statement of intent in 1980, and remarkably - for such an artifact of its time - age has not withered this 25th anniversary reissue one jot.

Bonding over their love of Hansa-era Bowie (their first recording adventure - Boys Keep Swinging - is included here as a bonus), the Associates' sound always veered dangerously close to something approaching totalitarian chic. Such flirting was lingua franca for the time, yet what saved the duo was both a sense of impish humour and an innate belief in their own un-tutored talents. Thus Punch boasts a rude confidence as Billy's swooping, swooning mannerisms are multitracked over audaciousarrangements. The only thing that places it as an early 80s artifact is the sound of guitars squeezed through chorus pedals and drums so gated that they sound like cardboard boxes. Otherwise this could be music from Mars; so oddly 'other' is its approach. Mackenzie's voice was already utterly unique in its octave-spanning bravado, but the whole construction just seems like something constrained and constricted to fit studio technology that wasn't ready for the job. Who knows how they'd sound these days?

And the lyrics? Ah, here lay the boys' trump card. Just as the sound is pressed thin by it's limitations, so the words seem to strain to express feelings and places not meant to be pinned down by syllables. In turns sexually ambivalent (A Matter Of Gender), violently surreal (The Affectionate Punch), wildly romantic (Even Dogs In The Wild), filled with post-war sang froid (Transport To Central) or just incomprehensible (Logan Time) they spill out like postcards from an imaginary Europe. Half chanson, half krautrock. Totally their own.

The haste and budgetary restraints meant that the follow ups (Fourth Drawer Down and Sulk) were both more acceptably polished and more outlandish. Indeed their first major label signing saw them packed off to the studio to remix this whole album for re-release - but it now stands as a worthy document on its own. Few bands today would dare to be so audacious... --Chris Jones

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23 of 24 people found the following review helpful
By Dr. D. B. Sillars VINE™ VOICE
Format:Audio CD
At last, the original version of the debut Associates album. This knocks spots off the re-mixed version which has been the only available version on CD for many years. That version sounded too sterile and synthetic. Here, Alan Rankine's unusual instrumental arrangements really add a distinctive edge to these songs. This would reach a peak with their masterpiece "Sulk". The guitars here really add an epic sweep to wonderful songs such as "Amused as Always", "Would I Bounce Back" and the magnificent "Logan Time". This latter track is Mackenzie pushing out all the emotional stops. A real tour de force. For me this song is more Jimmy Logan than Logan's Run! Maybe that's just my Scottish roots coming through! "A" is wonderfully playful. But the whole album is the band finding their stylistic niche.

What was it about Scottish bands in the 80's? Being Scottish and living with this music at the time, there was something angular, off-centre and unique about what the Cocteau Twins, Win, Josef K, Simple Minds and The Associates were doing. Even now albums such as "The Affectionate Punch", "Fourth Drawer Down" and "Sulk" sound so alien to what pop music should sound like. That's what keeps it sounding fresh and invigorating. For the duo of Mackenzie and Rankine, there were no limits, no barriers, no conforming to standard precepts of how pop music should sound.

This is a great package. The remastered sound is excellent, clear and crisp. The booklet has full credits, lyrics, a good essay and some nice archival photographs. The extra tracks are worth a listen too.

This is such a welcome release indeed. A superb debut album and a prime example from a time when pop music was quirky, bold, original and to be honest interesting!

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28 of 30 people found the following review helpful
By Jason Parkes #1 HALL OF FAME
Format:Audio CD
Finally, The Associates debut album 'The Affectionate Punch' (1980) is reissued - following an epic reissue programme following Billy Mackenzie's death in the late 1990s which included such albums as 'Fourth Drawer Down', 'Perhaps' & 'Sulk.' This is the album as it was originally released in 1980 - a few years later there was a remixed-version with an alternate running-order & a more futuristic/homoerotic cover. This version comes with a few bonus-tracks common to the compilation 'Double Hipness' - 'Boy's Keep Swinging' (with its amusing lyrical emphasis, "BOWIE'S keep swinging!") & 'Mona Property Girl' - a song later re-recorded for 'Fourth Drawer Down' as 'A Girl Named Property.'

The album has dated well, and though neither as electronic-experimental as 'Fourth Drawer Down' or as opaque-otherworldly as 'Sulk', it completes the recordings of Mackenzie/Rankine-Associates & contextualises what came after. The band later dismissed it as a demo & wrote it off as dark - but I think it's fine and certainly holds its own against such peers albums as 'Empires & Dance', 'Gentlemen Take Polaroids','Technodelic', 'Seventeen Seconds', 'Computerworld', 'The Only Fun in Town' & 'The Correct Use of Soap.' It's quite Bowie - though balances his influence with Mackenzie & Rankine's own original outlook - I'd say it was the album Bowie-fans would wish he'd made after "Heroes."

'The Affectionate Punch' was their sole-release on Fiction, home to The Cure for many years - further connections with that band are clear here when the producers includ Fiction-head/ex-Cure-manager Chris Parry & Mike Hedges - who would produce 'Seventeen Seconds', 'Faith' & 'Sulk' (amongst others). Mackenzie & Rankine also produce- the former sings, while the latter plays all the instruments bar the drums (played by Nigel Glocker). Cure-fans will note the presence of Robert Smith on backing-vocals - the place where Smith got his trademark howl from?

The lyrics are beginning to become as oblique as later joys like 'Breakfast' & 'Skipping' - the sinister "His jawline's not perfect, but that can be altered" from 'Transport to Central' (the missing link between 'Night & Fog' & 'Station to Station'?), or the surreal "If I threw myself from the ninth storey- would I levitate back to three?" from 'Would I...Bounce Back' being prime examples. With a mind on Mackenzie's tragic sucide, you retroactively look again at the lyrics- "I caught me looking at myself/Now my voice deep with age/Talks in tongues of younger days" ('Logan Time'), or "Don't be sure of days in advance/They might never come..." ('Amused as Always'). The slightly odd lyrics I think predict something recent like Interpol - who have songs like 'Leif Erikson' & 'Roland' that drift between nonsense & profound via oblique (I'd love to hear Interpol cover 'Logan Time'). Musically, you are reminded of Berlin-Bowie, 'Propaganda'-Sparks & Foxx-era Ultravox! Then again, its influence can be detected in early records by U2 (admitted by Bono in the introduction to 'The Glamour Chase' book), and its sound could be argued to be borrowed/diluted by Duran Duran & Spandau Ballet for their respective debuts. 'The Affectionate Punch' is a prime example of the New Romantic sound...

It's all great - from the playful-pop of 'A' (as assured as prime-pop Prince), to the gorgeous 'A Matter of Gender' & the sleazy 'Even Dogs in the Wild' - which achieves in one-song what Brett Anderson has in a career. The highpoint, or rather lowpoint comes early - the latter triad of the original side one : 'Logan Time', 'Paper House' & 'Transport to Central.' 'Logan Time' nods to the early death sci-fi of the film 'Logan's Run' and is hypnotic stuff; while 'Paper House' displays a sound not far from Siouxsie & the Banshees. 'Transport to Central' remains dark, quasi-Nietzchean stuff - leading towards that 'White Car in Germany' the following year...

'The Affectionate Punch' is a welcome reissue, especially in this version which replaces the 1997-reissue of the 1982 remixed/remodelled version (which might have been issued with this for completist sake!). This pretty much completes the Associates-Mackenzie back-catalogue with the albums reissued and recent compilations like 'Auchtermatic', 'Singles' & 'Transmission Impossible' - though am sure I read somewhere that there are several albums worth of songs recorded with Yello's Boris Blank, so perhaps not? An obligatory purchase - though perhaps 'Kites' should have been a bonus-track too?

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14 of 15 people found the following review helpful
By Jason Parkes #1 HALL OF FAME
Format:Audio CD
This reissue of The Associates debut album from 1980 takes us back to the beginning and pretty much completes the posthumous reissue programme of Associates/Mackenzie releases - 'Beyond the Sun' (1997), 'The Affectionate Punch- 1982 remixed version' (1997), 'Memory Palace' (1999), 'Fourth Drawer Down' (2000), 'Sulk' (2000), 'Double Hipness' (2000),'Eurocentric' (2001), 'Perhaps/The Glamour Chase' (2002), the two-volume 'Peel Sessions' (2002), 'Singles' (2004), 'Auchtermatic' (2005) & 'Transmission Impossible' (2005). This is the original version released in 1980 on Fiction Records - long time home of The Cure and co-produced by then Cure-manager Chris Parry with Mike Hedges and The Associates themselves. The later 1982 remixed version re-ordered the tracklisting and had a better cover (as well as dropping the 'The' in The Associates); this version comes with a few bonus tracks including debut-single 'Boy's Keep Swinging' (with its memorable chorus of "Bowie's keep swinging"!) & an earlier version of 'Girl Named Property', 'Mona Property Girl.' Cure-fans will also note the presence on backing vocals of one Robert Smith - whose trademark yelp could very well be traced to this record!

'The Affectionate Punch' would later be dismissed by the band, who went onto the more experimental singles collected on 'Fourth Drawer Down' & the masterpiece-longplayer 'Sulk', before the band split and Mackenzie carried on alone. 'The Affectionate Punch' is one of those albums which very much continues the avenues explored on Bowie's late 1970s classics 'Station to Station', 'Low' & "Heroes" - obviously influenced by the thin white one, as well as Mackenzie's favourites Siouxsie & the Banshees. It would also influence, from the vocal-inflections that turned up on later Cure-records, to the guitar sound on 'Paper House' - U2 have cited early Associates records as amongst those that influenced them (see also Gang of Four, Joy Division). 'The Affectionate Punch' is one to file alongside such albums of the era as 'Seventeen Seconds', 'Empires & Dance', 'Journeys to Glory', 'Ju-Ju', 'Scary Monsters', 'The Correct Use of Soap', 'Travelogue', 'A/Z', 'Vienna' etc and is a key example of the so-called New Wave. It also displays Mackenzie & Rankine's pop-sensibility, based around the former's wild vocal style, and the latter's eclectic instrumentation.

The album does pale against Mackenzie & Rankine's avant-pop peak with Mike Hedges over the following years - and perhaps the 1982 remixed version could have also been included for completist sake? The lyrics are becoming odd, though nothing up there with 'Nude Spoons' or 'Skipping' yet, though there are messages oblique, "If I threw myself from the ninth storey - would I levitate back to three?" & "I don't know whether to over or under estimate you" - Mackenzie's wordplay becoming significant. There's also the playful 'A', adventerous pop that only AR Kane and peak-Prince have been close to (a pop chart based around the alphabet) & the lusty 'Even Dogs in the Wild'- which pretty much encapsulates Suede's career into one song!

There are lyrics that could hint at the despair and tragedy later - "Don't be sure of days in advance" ('Amused as Always')& "I caught me looking at myself/Now my voice deep with age/Talks in tongues of younger days" ('Logan Time') - though the bleak stuff was the order of the day at the time, remember. The darker songs here are the most memorable, paving the way towards joys like 'White Car in Germany', 'No' & 'Breakfast'- 'Deeply Concerned' is as strong as anything on "Heroes" , while the title track is one of those songs I like to imagine on a Mackenzie-covers album recorded by David Bowie...

The darkest section remains the first-side, following the title track and the desperate-rush of 'Amused as Always' there is the triad of 'Logan Time', 'Paper House' & 'Transport to Central.' 'Logan Time' is sci-fi inflected, moving towards the strangeness of 'Q Quarters', the theme relating to 'Logan's Run' - delivered in Mackenzie's wonderful vocals to Rankine's chiming guitars. Even better is the wild 'Paper House', which delivers wilder guitars & vocals over a Bowie-Eno-Visconti style electronica, the conclusion offers the refrain "There's a garden at the bottom" - the same garden as the later 'No'? 'Transport to Central' is fantastic stuff, related to the Nietzchean vibe apparent on 1981's single 'White Car in Germany'- sinister, quasi-fascist lyrics common to the time and found also in releases by Spandau Ballet & Throbbing Gristle: "Transport to central/We need more like him...His jawline's not perfect/But that can be altered/We've waited so long/For this one, to arrive..."

'The Affectionate Punch' demonstrates that pop can go some pretty adventerous places if people feel like it, and charts a story of an alternative type of pop practiced in the 1980s from a myriad of acts including Japan-Soft Cell-AR Kane-Scritti Politti-BEF-Heaven17-The Human League-Simple Minds-The Style Council-XTC-The Chills-New Order-Cabaret Voltaire-The The-Wire & masses more. 'The Affectionate Punch' is probably the album many wished Bowie would have made instead of the so-so 'Lodger', and would provide the ideal introduction to The/Associates prior to the xeno-pop of Situation Two and 'Sulk'....

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Most Recent Customer Reviews
Fabulous and essential
Still sends shivers down the spine. If you bought the original LP or ever saw them in concert, this is a must. I stll prefer the original mix by miles.
Published on 6 Sep 2009 by JohnMac59
Neglected masterpiece
It's actually closer to four stars, but to compensate for the unjustly negative reviews, this remix version from 1982 deserves some kind of boost. Read more
Published on 30 Dec 2008 by M. Ludes
I like this version
I think the reviews are a bit harsh on this remixed version. I think some of the tracks (e.g. Logan Time) benefit from the epic beefed up production. Read more
Published on 22 Jan 2008 by Johnjoe66
A hidden gem.
I'm surprised how little success the Associates achieved over the years. Although they've done some great things since, this album for me is probably the best set... Read more
Published on 5 Feb 2006 by D. Hull
At last released on CD, phew!!!!
This is a truly amazing album. Its unlike anything else I have heard and I struggle to compare the Associates to other groups.

Billy Macenzie's vocals are almost operatic. Read more

Published on 13 Aug 2005 by Mr. Tim Porter
39 Lion Street
I would just like to say that this turned my whole idea of music on its head. I loved it on release and still do. Strong lyrics, strong contruction. A classic.
Published on 13 Sep 2003 by Vincent Ruane
Sub-standard cash-in/reissue in wake of Mackenzie's suicide.
This reissue of The Affectionate Punch popped up in 1998, shortly after the release of the brilliant Beyond the Sun. Read more
Published on 4 Nov 2002 by Jason Parkes
Re mix spoils this CD
Unfortunately this CD is the 1982 remix of the original and it turns an excellent album into merely a good one. Read more
Published on 18 Mar 2000
A taste of glories to come.
In retrospect The Affectionate Punch sounds like a warm up lap, both conceptually and sonically, for the incredible expermintations of the Siutuation 2 singles, later to be... Read more
Published on 26 Dec 1999 by Matt Testifies
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