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'This book blew me away, it was dark, bleak, brutal and most importantly claustrophobic. Everything you could ask for in a Terminator novel, or even a Terminator movie.' --- TheTerminatorFans.com
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The eagerly awaited fourth "Terminator" movie, "Terminator Salvation", starring Christian Bale and directed by McG, reaches cinemas on 22 May 2009. In this official spin-off novel from the smash hit movie, Captain Dimitri Losenko in Russia in 2003 orders a retaliation against the US for their apparent nuclear attack. In Alaska in 2018, a small band of Resistance fighters hides out in the frozen wilderness only sustained by John Connor's voice coming through a crackling radio. Written by "New York Times" bestselling author Greg Cox, this essential novel further explores the events surrounding Judgment Day and its horrific aftermath.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
Format:Mass Market Paperback
The story is pretty good, it has a fair amount of time spent on the first few months after Judgement day from the perspective of a Russian sub commander. This is a nice perspective and adds a fair amount of background to the franchise.
A few things that really annoyed me though. half the book is dedicated to the future time line circa 2018. In one attack a single damaged T600 wiped out a large number of resistance fighters and destroyed their base. Humans are an endangered species in 2018 and take a long time to replace. If an old, damaged and obsolete terminator can take down half a resistance cell whilst armed with no weapons then there is little hope of survival for the human race, especially when the T800s start appearing.
For example, the constant use of M16's against Terminators seems ludicrous. The m16 fires a 5.56 non armour piercing round, great against humans utterly useless against amour.I am pretty sure that against an armoured opponent you would pretty quickly learn to use something a little bigger and a bit more effective. Early in the book they mention that a 50 cal sniper rifle can take a T600 apart. You would then perhaps think that a few 50 cal machine guns would make a fairly good defensive weapon for your base? Or even use the same sniper rifles for base defence? Unstoppable terminators in the first films makes sense, you only have the two sent back in time and the police / army don't know what they are so only use standard weapons on them. After judgement day the resistance will have sussed out how to kill terminators fairly quickly. This is why skynet builds infiltrators because the T600s are too easily spotted and taken out.
These are small geeky gripes but they dumped be out of the book on quiet a few occasions. If humanity had lasted 15 years after judgement day against a force with superior numbers, resources and weapons then you would expect the resistance to be pretty hardened and clued up on how to fight terminators. In this book they look to have a life expectancy of a pogo stick tester in a mine field.
Otherwise its worth a read but its not a patch on the films.
A few things that really annoyed me though. half the book is dedicated to the future time line circa 2018. In one attack a single damaged T600 wiped out a large number of resistance fighters and destroyed their base. Humans are an endangered species in 2018 and take a long time to replace. If an old, damaged and obsolete terminator can take down half a resistance cell whilst armed with no weapons then there is little hope of survival for the human race, especially when the T800s start appearing.
For example, the constant use of M16's against Terminators seems ludicrous. The m16 fires a 5.56 non armour piercing round, great against humans utterly useless against amour.I am pretty sure that against an armoured opponent you would pretty quickly learn to use something a little bigger and a bit more effective. Early in the book they mention that a 50 cal sniper rifle can take a T600 apart. You would then perhaps think that a few 50 cal machine guns would make a fairly good defensive weapon for your base? Or even use the same sniper rifles for base defence? Unstoppable terminators in the first films makes sense, you only have the two sent back in time and the police / army don't know what they are so only use standard weapons on them. After judgement day the resistance will have sussed out how to kill terminators fairly quickly. This is why skynet builds infiltrators because the T600s are too easily spotted and taken out.
These are small geeky gripes but they dumped be out of the book on quiet a few occasions. If humanity had lasted 15 years after judgement day against a force with superior numbers, resources and weapons then you would expect the resistance to be pretty hardened and clued up on how to fight terminators. In this book they look to have a life expectancy of a pogo stick tester in a mine field.
Otherwise its worth a read but its not a patch on the films.
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The year is 2003 and Judgement Day has happen and for the crew of the Russian Gorshkov they has just lunched there missles at the state of Alaska. In 2018 Molly Kookesh and her group are fighting skynet, trying to survive in the frozen wildness of Alaska. The lives of the Russian crew and the fighters will come together as they trying to save what left of the human race and stop Skynet once and for all.
"Terminator Salvation: Cold War" by Greg Cox is a great book for any fan of the "Terminator Series!" Mr.Cox takes the reader for Judgement Day and the beginning of the resistance the front lines of the battle to stop Skynet once and for all. I like the fact that the story isn't all about John Conner, but rather how both real soldiers and everyday people are trying to stop Skynet "Cold War" is a book that should not be miss by any fan of the "Terminator Series!"
"Terminator Salvation: Cold War" by Greg Cox is a great book for any fan of the "Terminator Series!" Mr.Cox takes the reader for Judgement Day and the beginning of the resistance the front lines of the battle to stop Skynet once and for all. I like the fact that the story isn't all about John Conner, but rather how both real soldiers and everyday people are trying to stop Skynet "Cold War" is a book that should not be miss by any fan of the "Terminator Series!"
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When Machines Stop Making Good Pets - Or Start, Depending on your Outlook.
5 Feb 2010
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In 2003, something that seemed like war broke out between the major powers of the world. Of the few who witnessed it, only a handful still remained. Of those, a submarine commanded by a Russian launched 13 warheads at Alaska on that day, only to find himself wandering homeless, with only his crew. What they stumbled upon was more than that, however, first finding a factory running with no humans in sight and then more and more oddities. In 2018, Judgment Day has come and gone and mankind has found itself at the mercy of Skynet. In Alaska, people try to survive any way they can. They hit the pipeline when they can, get married to feel normal, and die at the hands of the T-600s.
But The Resistance is looking for ways to fight back, ways that the machines wouldn't think of, all the while listening to a man named John Connor as he teaches them about survival.
If you are listening to this, you are the Resistance.
And so they learn Skynet's weaknesses, waiting for the day when humanity will arise.
Coming off the successful movie depicting the 2018 struggle, Gregg Cox's book showcases a world where humans are beginning to wear thin. They have learned to fight, sure, but the machines have learned to fight as well. The machines have gotten better at it, too, while humanity is still trying to forget the world that no longer exists. In Cox's book, I like the way he explains certain things to his readers, trying to make them understand that the wrld without machines is dead. He shows us a picture of what happened in 2003, and he shows us the fingers that helped humanity tetter off that edge. One of the things he points out is that those fingers were human as well as servos and switches, and that people were more than willing to see the world come to such a horrifying conclusion. At the same time, Cox tells his readers about the energy that Skynet uses, how it powers it, and how a group of people could hurt something so mammoth.
He talks about a train - and how one could take something like uranium and put it to such efficient use.
Personally, I liked Cox's book and found the read interesting. The 2003 story was just as engaging as the 2018 story, keeping me reading. It help[ed to have seen the movie and to have liked it as well, and I had no problem with machines hunting down people and killing them because they were the enemy. If you found the movie enjoyable, you might find more detail in the book interesting, and some of the little things fun. I personally like that type of thing - its like having someone sit down and explain to you how a new toy operates instead of simply seeing it as you walk by.
Will you like it? As i said, it depends on your take on the movie. It is inspired by the tale and plays with the dates, so you could find it relaxing or annoying, depending. I thought it was a good piece of reading, and hope to see more machine killing people on pages sometime soon.
But The Resistance is looking for ways to fight back, ways that the machines wouldn't think of, all the while listening to a man named John Connor as he teaches them about survival.
If you are listening to this, you are the Resistance.
And so they learn Skynet's weaknesses, waiting for the day when humanity will arise.
Coming off the successful movie depicting the 2018 struggle, Gregg Cox's book showcases a world where humans are beginning to wear thin. They have learned to fight, sure, but the machines have learned to fight as well. The machines have gotten better at it, too, while humanity is still trying to forget the world that no longer exists. In Cox's book, I like the way he explains certain things to his readers, trying to make them understand that the wrld without machines is dead. He shows us a picture of what happened in 2003, and he shows us the fingers that helped humanity tetter off that edge. One of the things he points out is that those fingers were human as well as servos and switches, and that people were more than willing to see the world come to such a horrifying conclusion. At the same time, Cox tells his readers about the energy that Skynet uses, how it powers it, and how a group of people could hurt something so mammoth.
He talks about a train - and how one could take something like uranium and put it to such efficient use.
Personally, I liked Cox's book and found the read interesting. The 2003 story was just as engaging as the 2018 story, keeping me reading. It help[ed to have seen the movie and to have liked it as well, and I had no problem with machines hunting down people and killing them because they were the enemy. If you found the movie enjoyable, you might find more detail in the book interesting, and some of the little things fun. I personally like that type of thing - its like having someone sit down and explain to you how a new toy operates instead of simply seeing it as you walk by.
Will you like it? As i said, it depends on your take on the movie. It is inspired by the tale and plays with the dates, so you could find it relaxing or annoying, depending. I thought it was a good piece of reading, and hope to see more machine killing people on pages sometime soon.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
Written by a non-fan or a non-writer
24 July 2011
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It's easy to tell when a fan, a TRUE fan of a franchise takes on a content creation task for that franchise. Just look at what Christopher Nolan did for Batman. Can you honestly believe for a second he doesn't understand the Batman mythology, across more than one of the many variations of the franchise spanning decades?
My guess is Greg Cox isn't much of a fan of the Terminator mythology and probably wrote this book as a money making ploy. He simply doesn't get what makes the Terminator story truly exciting, and instead opts to try, with weak writing, uninspired narrative ideas, and a near total lack of military protocol, to connect some dots between mostly unimportant points of the fourth movie. Yes, the fourth movie seems to be the only source of his franchise knowledge, and that's sad considering the weak state of T:Salvation.
The other option is that Cox is a super fan who simply can't write and found a publisher/editor who didn't know anything about the franchise and simply help him take his weak writing and clean it up. Even the most hard core fans don't tend to make the strongest extended universe content.
My desire with any extended universe type content is to walk away from it with a better, deeper, more emotional connection to the universe that the stories exist in. This book, sadly, doesn't help do anything for that EU connection, instead opting to tell the core "run from unkillable robots" story that is a plot device, not a mythology hallmark of the Terminator franchise.
I also have to add, that this book's other reviews strike me as completely fake. The tone of most of the 4 and 5 star reviews read like a literary agent wrote them.... and there's a good chance that's exactly what happened.
My guess is Greg Cox isn't much of a fan of the Terminator mythology and probably wrote this book as a money making ploy. He simply doesn't get what makes the Terminator story truly exciting, and instead opts to try, with weak writing, uninspired narrative ideas, and a near total lack of military protocol, to connect some dots between mostly unimportant points of the fourth movie. Yes, the fourth movie seems to be the only source of his franchise knowledge, and that's sad considering the weak state of T:Salvation.
The other option is that Cox is a super fan who simply can't write and found a publisher/editor who didn't know anything about the franchise and simply help him take his weak writing and clean it up. Even the most hard core fans don't tend to make the strongest extended universe content.
My desire with any extended universe type content is to walk away from it with a better, deeper, more emotional connection to the universe that the stories exist in. This book, sadly, doesn't help do anything for that EU connection, instead opting to tell the core "run from unkillable robots" story that is a plot device, not a mythology hallmark of the Terminator franchise.
I also have to add, that this book's other reviews strike me as completely fake. The tone of most of the 4 and 5 star reviews read like a literary agent wrote them.... and there's a good chance that's exactly what happened.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
Thrilling, Back-and-fourth adventure that adds tons to the movie and other spin-offs
17 Jan 2010
Format:Mass Market Paperback
This is the 3rd Terminator Salvation-era book I've read (5th or 6th Terminator-based book). This, along with Timothy Zahn's "From the Ashes" and Alan Dean Foster's "Terminator Salvation", is a non-stop, action packed thrill ride, that adds depth and sheds light on the movie "Terminator Salvation". You'll swap between 2003 and 2018, in the footsteps of Losenko...a duty-bound Russian Naval Captain who receives orders to retaliate after an apparent all-out nuclear attack from America; and in the footsteps of Molly Kookesh,an Alaska Native running a small Resistance Band, with bold ideas for taking on and screwing over Skynet.
John Connor isn't the main focus of the story...in fact, only he and his famous radio broadcasts are mentioned. Instead, the focus is on Molly and her attempts to thwart Skynet's termination of mankind; and Losenko, who now has no higher authority to report to, has no idea what's going on, and is uneasy with the fact that he was a key player in unleashing destruction world-wide.
If you want a non-stop, thrilling, action-packed page-turner, and love or are intrigued by The Terminator...it's a must buy. It also sheds light on the formation of the Human Resistance Leadership.
John Connor isn't the main focus of the story...in fact, only he and his famous radio broadcasts are mentioned. Instead, the focus is on Molly and her attempts to thwart Skynet's termination of mankind; and Losenko, who now has no higher authority to report to, has no idea what's going on, and is uneasy with the fact that he was a key player in unleashing destruction world-wide.
If you want a non-stop, thrilling, action-packed page-turner, and love or are intrigued by The Terminator...it's a must buy. It also sheds light on the formation of the Human Resistance Leadership.
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