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'Talisman' is a roller-coaster intellectual journey through the back streets and rat runs of history to uncover the traces in architecture and monuments of a secret religion that has shaped the world.

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4.0 out of 5 stars Enlightenment is hard work, but worth it if you are interest, 29 Jun 2004

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D. LIGHTBODY "davel22" (Scotland) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Talisman : Sacred Cities, Secret Faith (Hardcover)

Worth reading if you're interested in freemasonry, and how it effects us all.

First, it is a large book and quite heavy reading. Many different people, times, places, from 3000BC to present. It's a massive subject, and Bauval & Hancock have tried to tie together events right through, so its probably not surprising its so huge. I was pretty up on the subject already but still found it heavy going, and maybe because of the ease of Internet researching, it has a bit of a cut'n'paste feel about it.

I think there is a lot of info missed out, perhaps deliberately, to limit the subject.

Its also pretty much a summary of several other books such as those by Robert Lomas on the freemasons. Bauval does add some of his own new interpretations that seem accurate. The "Picatrix" text is also interesting.

So, all in all, I wasn't convinced of a direct link back to Gnostic Alexandria, but more a general survival of ideas of free thought through the dark ages of Christian suppression. I was however convinced that the secret societies were a direct result of repressive monarchs and religion, and that almost everyone of influence was connected to freemasonry in the 18-19th centuries.

On the subject of modern freemasonry, there is no doubt now about the direct influence on city plans, buildings, & policy, which continues today.

So, in summary, lots of good info if a bit selective, not Pseudo-History, but a difficult book to read

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4.0 out of 5 stars Fascinating first half but loses its way, 30 Aug 2004

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millie1512 (London, UK) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Talisman : Sacred Cities, Secret Faith (Hardcover)

The premise of Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock's book can be summarised as follows: Ancient Egyptian philosophy and thought has survived in various forms to the present day through Hermiticism, Gnostic Christianity, the Cathars, secret societies and freemasonary.

The first section of this very weighty work is devoted to forms of Christianity which competed with Catholicism from the first centuries AD to the middle ages. Hancock and Bauval make a convincing case that a continuum exists between Gnostic thought in early Christian Egypt and the Cathars of 12th / 13th Century Languedoc via sects in Armenia, Turkey and the Balkans.

And while other books about the Cathars have placed the Albigensian Crusade in a political context (French King stirs up trouble to extend France southwards), Hancock and Bauval present it as a clash of cultures, values and religion.

Talisman presents both a very detailed and a very accessible explanation of what the Cathars actually believed. For that reason alone I found the book worth buying. Had the authors stopped their narrative in the early 14th century then Talisman for me would have been a hands down winner.

Where it loses its way is in the second half of the book, where Hancock and Bauval try to explain how Hermetic thought carried on through the middle ages and rennaissance. The second half does however include some some fascinating nuggets of information, for example the obsession French revolutionary leaders had with ancient Egyptian religion and symbolism and how they wove it onto their 'Cult of the Supreme Being', which was to replace Christianity.

Unfortunately the final few chapters seem almost rushed as if the authors wanted to finish up and move onto other projects.

For example the last few chapter on the state of Israel and Islamic fundamentalism is pretty random and reads as if it was tacked on from another book altogether. This leaves the authors open to being mis-interpreted. Another reviewer has said that Bauval and Hancock claim some sort of masonic conspiracy was behind the creation of Israel. In no way do they believe a 'way out' and downright theory like this.

As Robert Bauval says in the official website of the book, what they do believe is that there is much to support the contention that radical Arab and Judeo-Christian fundamentalists may actually believe is such a conspiracy. A crucial and a very big difference, but one that would have been clearer had they spent more time expanding on it, rather than adding it in the final section of Talisman almost as an afterthought.

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3.0 out of 5 stars Interesting at times, but fanciful!, 26 April 2007

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James McGovern (UK) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Talisman : Sacred Cities, Secret Faith (Hardcover)

Contrary to what another reviewer has stated, I should make it clear that nowhere in this book is there any mention whatsoever of the infamous work of fiction, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion". This other reviewer clearly has not read "Talisman", and it would appear that they gained their erroneous opinion from a misunderstanding of another previous review. The authors of this book do mention at one point that certain Islamic extremists believe, for some reason, that the Freemasons are helping the Zionist (i.e., pro-Israel) cause in the Middle Eastern region. Other than this largely irrelevant point, there is nothing even remotely connected with the Protocols in this work.

As for the real content of the book, it gives a brief overview of history in which the authors attempt to illustrate the connections between certain esoteric sects. The Gnostics and Hermetics of the Roman period are portrayed as having received some of their inspiration and ideas from Ancient Egypt, and the later Cathars and Bogomils of medieval Europe are theorised to have both been the inheritors of this Gnostic and Hermetic knowledge. A moderate case is set forth to support this basic thesis, including a comparative look at early Hermetic writings and the Egyptian "Book of the Dead", but it seems the authors did not spend enough time on their ideas to give them real justice, I feel.

There are a few minor errors in this book that I noticed, which implies there may be more. On page 377 it is stated that on "27 December 1789 Pope Clement XII signed the order for Cagliostro's arrest." This can hardly be correct, considering Pope Clement XII died in 1740! It is also stated on page 473 that Julius Caesar founded the world's first republic; yet the Roman Republic had effectively ended before Caesar even came to power. He introduced the Julian calendar in 46 BC, too, not 48 BC as stated in the book.

This is a fairly interesting book at times, but you will probably not find everything in here convincing. Particularly feeble is the idea that certain famous cities have been aligned intentionally in certain manners of esoteric significance; for instance, so that the sun and Sirius both align with Pennsylvania Avenue on 12 August - obviously just a coincidence, in my opinion. Certain buildings or their layouts are said to have been secretly copied from ancient ones; maybe the authors have keener eyes than I, but I fail to see any correspondence whatsoever between the layout of the Louvre Palace and the Luxor temple at Thebes.

Ultimately, though, this is worth reading, but do not expect it to astonish you with its arguments and evidences set forth.

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