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Symphonies Nos. 1 - 9 And Bonus-CD [Box set, Import]

Ludwig Van Beethoven Audio CD
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  • Audio CD (17 Sep 2003)
  • Number of Discs: 6
  • Format: Box set, Import
  • Label: Haenssler Classics
  • ASIN: B0000U1NEM
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (1 customer review)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 1,001,293 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
By Colin Fortune VINE™ VOICE
Fifteen years on from the (now very cheap) London Classical Players' set Norrington has deeper insights into the symphonies, a better orchestra and superb recorded sound. From the start I need to say that this is my "reference set" at the present: all of the fashionable vibrato-less "authentic" performing style on a modern orchestra (with "early" trumpets) that rises to the sense of occasion and plays flawlessly.

The only areas that I think might be questionable for some listeners are as follows. Symphony 3 is taken very quickly with a flowing Funeral March movement and some people might miss the sense of tragedy that more romantic interpretations have brought to this. But the Finale is superbly held together and is one of the most life-affirming performances I have ever heard. The slow movement of Symphony 7 is NOT slow - indeed it is very quick indeed and sounds slightly mechanistic. But only slightly and you get used to it (as Klemperer famously said of his interpretation of the Peasants' Merrymaking in the Pastoral) - the rest of the symphony is blisteringly good with all the repeats taken.

And that it for the warnings! Norrington has abandoned the stupidly slow tempo for the tenor's soloist in the last movement of the Ninth and indeed his Choral Symphony is a magnificent climax to a remarkably fresh and exciting cycle. I particularly like the attention to the metronome markings (put in by Czerny?) and find the flowing tempo for the Ninth's adagio movement very convincing indeed. All the symphonies are performed and recorded to the highest standard.

The really outstanding performance in this set is the Pastoral Symphony. Here Norrington and the orchestra are peerless. Words fail me: just listen to it with delight (and the "Bravo!" from an audience member in the separately tracked applause section was never more justified). But all the others are excellent.

Perhaps it would help to give individual star ratings:

Symphonies 1, 2, 4, 5, 8 and 9 are five star recordings.
Symphonies 3 and 7 are four-and-a-half star recordings.
Symphony 6 is at least a seven star recording!

The is the "lean beef" Beethoven of the Weingartner/Toscanini tradition and if Norrington sometimes outdoes both of these conductors in speed he also manages to be remarkably sensitive and fluid. It is an impressive achievement.

For a totally contrasted account from a different era you will do no better than Klemperer's set from the late 1950's coupled (very cheaply) with the Barenboim Piano Concertos and some overtures. Beethoven's genius is such that I want to hear his music interpreted in different ways by conductors and orchestras of greatness. If you get this set as well as the Norrington you will have two immensely contrasted and individual traversals of the "Great Nine" and that is what I hope you will be able to do. If not, then take comfort in the fact that Norrington offers the very best of the lithe, speedy and ultimately joyous approach and buy these discs even over the granitic heroism of Klemperer.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Norrington's 21st century update 2 Mar 2007
By Larry VanDeSande - Published on Amazon.com
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I don't mind saying Roger Norrington renewed Beethoven for me. Before I sampled his first set of Beethoven symphonies about 1990, I had gone more than a decade being bored by Beethoven recordings. Of everything I'd heard, only the Symphony No. 9 by Richard Hickox on ASV, using an orchestra the size Beethoven would have known in his day, maintained my consistent interest. This probably because I overdosed on Beethoven as a young collector and overexposed myself to Beethoven a la Walter, Karajan, Bernstein, Toscanini, Szell, Bohm and Krips.

Norrington reenergized Beethoven for me in the same way he renewed his symphonies for an entire generation of classical music listeners. As one that came to classical music about 1970, the then recorded world of Beethoven revolved around two styles -- an older humanistic or romantic style best idealized by Walter and Furtwangler, and a newer objective or literal style best championed by Karajan, whose 1963 set of Beethoven symphonies is still probably the poster boy for the new style of worldwide conducting that emerged in the post-World War II era.

With this new set, recorded in 2003 in concert recording with the Stuttgart Radio Symphony Orchestra using modern instruments, Norrington is the first period practitioner to have two complete sets of recordings of the nine Beethoven symphonies. In my mind, this set is the equivalent of Karajan's second complete set of recordings from 1977. There are similarities between the two -- both sets showed improved sonics and both showed the new Beethoven master still true to his style while rounding off some of the rough corners from his first address.

In this set, Norrington improves his product over the 1985 version by:

-- Having a cleaner, clearer sound that exposes all the instruments and instrumental lines.

-- Exploiting the advantages of concert or "live" musicmaking by capturing the inherent spontaneity of those events.

-- Offering much greater audial emphasis on timpani, which the conductor frequently uses to generate and maintain passion and momentum.

-- Using an authentic old line German orchestra steeped in Beethoven tradition.

The performances themselves are in no way, shape or character changed much from Norrington's first go round on EMI with the London Classical Players. He adheres to similar practices and tempi as the first time around. In my opinion there are some elements to these recordings that are not as good as the first time, however:

-- The inclusion of audience applause after every performance. While I like applause, it begins to get tiresome when listening in sequence. Perhaps the set would have been better had applause been placed on an individual track.

-- The "set" of symphonies is little more than placing the five individual recordings, in their jewel boxes with the original notes, inside a larger cardboard box. I'd have liked this better had Hanssler simply placed the CDs themselves in a new box with a single set of notes and documentation. This set takes up the same space as 7 CDs on your shelf.

-- The inclusion of a separate CD with Norrington's chatter to the audience, before leading 8 of the symphonies, on historical practice. This is your "bonus" for buying the set. I suppose this is fine for people that like this sort of thing.

Perhaps the greatest difference between this technically advanced set and Norrington's original set is the lack of discovery that comes with this one. Norrington shook the world in the 1980s with his first recordings and forced everyone to take notice in the same way Harnoncourt forced the world to look differently at Bach with his pioneering 1968 recording of the Brandenburg concertos.

In the intervening decades Norrington has moved on to record Bach, Haydn, Mendelssohn, Schumann, Mahler and even Bruckner, typically to less acclaim. The bottom line is that, in spite of all the good and wonderful traits of this set, you heard it before in his earlier set.

This was also true when Karajan came out with his 1977 Beethoven set. It sounded better, the conductor showed his personal growth in the interim period between the two productions, and he was still the biggest name in the business in the particular repertoire. But it did not carry the electric charge of the original set, which is still probably the best-selling Beethoven set in history.

In recent months Gramophone magazine published a special story on Beethoven symphonies in light of recent sets by Abbado and Rattle and in-progress productions of the nine by Vanska-Minneapolis Symphony on BIS and Haitink-London Symphony on the LSO Live label. The magazine listed five sets of Beethoven symphonies is characterized as the most representative of the composer that were currently available; Karajan's 1963 set and Norrington's 1985 set were in that listing.

While many readers protested their favorites not being represented in those choices, I agree with Gramophone's assessment. Furthermore, I'd say this set is the natural follow up to Norrington's still classic expose of what Beethoven has become in the PPP era.
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4.0 out of 5 stars wonderful but 2 Aug 2011
By Laurence Levine - Published on Amazon.com
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Norrington's second performance of all the Beethoven symphonies is somewhat different from the first. This one has a modern orchestra playing with minimal vibrato. As with the first set, the most important aspect is the tempi. The tempi are in the main faster, sometimes considerably. While exciting, it gets away from Beethoven's metronome markings. The first set was closer, even passable. The allegretto of the seventh symphony is played at about the tempo Hummel took. Beethoven's tempo was somewhat slower. There are improvements, especially in the eighth symphony, but if I had to choose one Norrington performance, I would choose the other one. Both are worth acquiring.
5.0 out of 5 stars The most exciting recording since Gardiner's 15 Jun 2012
By Adam H. Golding - Published on Amazon.com
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This is by far the most exciting recording that I have come across in decades. It is so fresh; completely different to anything else out there. The first thing that struck me about these recordings is the tone attained by the brass. It is brilliant and brassy without the players ever shouting or overblowing. The double bass and timpani are spectacular and Norrington uses them exceptionally to create an unprecedented element of excitement. The tone of the Oboes (and clarinets in fact) is so pure and clear, not even a fraction nasal.

I am not going to spend time talking about the tempi as this has been done before and they are as one would expect from Norrington. The element of these recordings which separates them from anything else I have ever come across is the level of distinction with which each line comes across. If an orchestra was described to me as being completely unblended I am sure I would not expect to like it, yet that is exactly what these recordings are and it is spectacular. Every chord is perfectly balanced, every line beautifully and intentionally phrased and each individual instrument comes across with absolute clarity and integrity of tone.

There are thousands of recordings of the Beethoven Symphonies played by modern orchestras, hundreds of recordings of period orchestras but as far as I know this is the only recording of a historically informed performance on modern instruments. The result is simply sublime.

The set includes a lecture by Norrington on each symphony and whilst the liner notes are bilingual, these talks are unfortunately only in German.

I would not recommend this set as an introduction to Beethoven. If however you are familiar with this unparalleled music and would like to have it completely refreshed then this is the recording for you!
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