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Start With A Strong And Persistent Desire

Vex Red Audio CD
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  • Audio CD (4 Mar 2002)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Virgin
  • ASIN: B00005UP03
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (20 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 121,664 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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Listen  1. The Closest 4:480.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  2. Dermo 3:330.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  3. Can't Smile [Explicit] 4:490.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  4. Untitled 5:180.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  5. Itch [Explicit] 3:470.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  6. Bully Me 4:530.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  7. Cause and Solution 4:270.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  8. Start With a Strong and Persisten Desire 3:520.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  9. Clone Jesus 4:360.99  Buy MP3 
Listen10. Sleep Does Nothing For You 3:550.99  Buy MP3 
Listen11. Vert 6:560.99  Buy MP3 

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Start With A Strong and Persistent Desire almost never got a chance to start at all. Aldershot's Vex Red spent a couple of years playing Home Counties toilets for little praise and less money. Then, on the verge of throwing in the towel, they spotted an article announcing producer Ross Robinson needed bands for his new label, sent away a demo and, a matter of weeks later, found themselves signed up and working with Robinson himself.

You'd expect an album overseen by the producer of Korn, Slipknot and At The Drive-In to be hip and heavy, and Start… is most certainly that. Many of the tracks are, in fact, wildly inventive. In the opening "The Closest", singer Terry Abbott delivers a chilling murmur while a strange buzzing flits between speakers, as Dermo's soft vocal and piano are assaulted by guitars recalling Black Sabbath's Never Say Die period. The virulently anti-cannabis "Can't Smile" has you thinking of Gavin Rossdale singing for the Sisters Of Mercy, while "Cause And Solution" is a building storm of sweeping guitars and twisting electronica, a punchy ambient techno. Though "Bully Me" lacks a strong melody, and the all-out assault of "Itch" overwhelms Abbott's sensitive vocal, this is a remarkable production job and a strong debut that raises Vex Red above Brit rock peers like Crackout and Lostprophets. They'll go far. --Dominic Wills

BBC Review

Can the English Rock? 2002 may prove a good year to test this theory what with The Cooper Temple Clause, A, Hundred Reasons and Lost Prophets all trying to impress with debut albums this year.

But all too often the UK Music press turn their noses up disdainfully at homegrown product in favour of America's establishment; Linkin' Park, Papa Roach, Korn, even the appalling Andrew WK.

Personally when I listen to our American friends I don't feel any connection - all I can imagine is approx. 1 million kids singing along to boring rock anthems that are completely without meaning.

So is it time to redress the balance? Step forward, Vex Red. Maybe along with the aforementioned UK acts, it can happen. The story goes (if you've not heard it before) that Ross Robinson, the man responsible for Slipknot, Limp Bizkit and At the Drive In, signed the band on the strength of a crappy demo tape. Something that doesn't happen every day in Aldershot.

The album opens with the adrenalin-fuelled "The Closest" and "Dermo", two songs full of strong guitars and blistering electrical energy, but things really start to get interesting by track 3 - "Can't Smile" is pure quality; here vocalist Terry Abbott provides evidence to justify his job title, as opposed to the usual shouters who stand in front of most loud bands. Abbott varies his approach from soft delicate lyrics to contorted screams that never fail to hit the mark. There's more to come; there are the fabulous earth-shattering drums on Itch and roaring guitars on "Sleep does nothing for you".

Angst and disappointment are a couple of common themes throughout: 'Feeling all your pain, you know I feel the same' and 'you said you'd help me....' cries Abbott, the sound of desolation in his voice. What makes Vex Red rise above the competition is their ability to completely rock out but also be aware that you can have too much of a good thing; there are plenty of moments for you to catch your breath in between the guitar assaults. The excellent vocals sustain calm despite the raw power exerted by the rest of the band.

Ditch the stadium sound and check out the clean, pure rock of Vex Red. --Dan Tallis

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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars hotly anticipated debut from brit upstarts 7 Mar 2002
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
Let's get one thing straight, why do the music press (mentioning no names) continue to build up reader interest in new bands, with 'next big thing' or 'new hope' tags, just to bring then down? Vex Red have come in for some undue critiscm since the release of 'Start...' and the writing was on the wall since the hype wagon began. This is unfortuante as much as it is unfair because this is a very accomplished debut from a talented quintet clearly demonstrating a penchant for quality and often brutal tunes. 'The closest' is a great opener with throbbing bass, a meaty hook and terrific drumming.
Obviously because of Ross Robinson's contribution to the knob twiddling on this record and the dubious way in which the bands deal was struck, a great deal of interest has been generated but for the wrong reasons.
It has to be said that at times what is on offer here is not the most original but it is the delivery that counts and Vex Red certainly mean it. Just listen to the emotion in 'Can't smile' for Abbot's vocal range (yes a nod to Silverchair's Mr John's)
Second track 'Dermo' is, put simply, a wolf in sheeps clothing. What starts as a ballady tale of boredom twists into a stomping almost techno assault with wirling synths, samples and hooks.
It is on the lament 'Bully Me' where the bands limitations are exposed in the albums weakest track. 'Cause and solution' is almost animal rights era Moby, splitting the album perfectly.
Comparisons with Lostprophets, Adema and Nu-boy band Linkin Park are almost inevitable but the layers and depth on this record relate more to a younger brother of Filter. Singles 'Itch' and live favourie 'Clone Jesus' further prove the bands nailing of the quiet-loud dynamics.
'Start...' is an apt title and on this evidence we can expect great things of Vex Red and good luck to them.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Very good debut 13 Mar 2002
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Format:Audio CD
Start With a Strong and Persistent Desire oozes quality, which is perhaps a little unusual for a debut album. None of the tracks could be classed as filler, they're all great in their own right; Your CD player skip-forward control will not be needed!
Tracks that are very likely to immediately grab your attention include the single Can't Smile, a great combination of emotional vocals, good riffs and some superfast drumming, and (another single) Itch, which is slightly slower and heavier, but no less emotional than Can't Smile. Other instantly accessible tracks include the title track, Clone Jesus and The Closest.
Thankfully, there's a little depth in here too. Some tracks are decidedly deceptive at first. Dermo sounds like the obligatory "slow and quiet" track on the album, until it gets about a minute in and suddenly kicks into some weird sounding (but very pleasing) hybrid of fast rock and techno, complete with some cool sounding effects. Untitled follows a similar pattern, although remains at a slower pace and doesn't get so heavily into the techno side of things.
Some of the tracks take a few listens to get into, but I always find that's the case with good albums. In my case, Sleep Does Nothing For You and Cause And Solution both took a while to sink in, but now I like them plenty.
Perhaps the real beauty of this album lies in the fact that each song really does sound different, or maybe it's because there doesn't seem to be any weak link in the band: the drumming is particularly good, different to a lot of standard rock/metal fare; the vocals can move from slow, quiet melody to angry screams in an instant; the bass and guitars churn out some powerful riffage, and all sound pleasantly fuzzy.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars The futures bright, the futures...red! 23 May 2002
Format:Audio CD
I first experienced Vex Red at Brixton Academy in Feb 2002 - their set was absolutly blinding and their sound amazing, nothing like I'd really ever heard before. As soon as I got home from that gig, I jumped straight on my computer and ordered Vex Red's debut album 'Start With A Strong & Persistent Desire'. Usually when you first listen to an album it takes you a while to get into it but I took to this straight away and couldn't find even one track that I wasn't too keen on. I would deffinatly recommend you to buy this album - in my opinion the best album of 2002 so far!
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5.0 out of 5 stars Another British Success... 5 Mar 2002
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A fine debut effort from the boys from Aldershot. With a vibrant guitar force, unique and effective keyboard sounds, being backed by fast and riveting drumming that blast you firmly into your seat, Vex Red begin their journey to take the world by storm.
Recently rated 2 out of 5 in a magazine, which is fair enough (it's an opinion). But that particular opinion has to be taken into account as some what of a joke by someone who has actually listened to the CD with great interest, for it boasts a lively and energetic vibe which overcomes a lot of great bands around at the moment.
Start With A Strong And Persistent Desire starts with an action packed array of glistening Nu-metal as "The Closest" kicks in with it's bouncy blast of guitaring glory which is mixed with Terry's vocals on the 'wake up' chorus that eases the pain of the troubled, after a rather weird intro. In one word, outstanding. Terry hit's an amazingly atmospheric high note on track 2 that brings in another powerful chorus to another classy song that is "Dermo".
The two (present) singles "Can't Smile" and "Itch" bring people around with the enjoyable propaganda that caught the eye of Ross Robinson, who stopped them from jacking it all in and put them back on the path of their dreams. "Can't smile" with its 'cool' riffs and well-trained vocals tuned to perfection and "Itch" with its deafeningly catchy chorus and twisted verses, combined with harsh, shocking and destructive guitaring that will make you slam the repeat button.
Others that catch the ear are "Clone Jesus" and "Sleep Does Nothing For You", that are sharp and demanding the gratitude which they truly deserve, as they insult you with their overpowering metal roots.
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5.0 out of 5 stars They just came too early
It's been 6 years (or there about) since they split up, but this album is still a firm favourite of mine. Read more
Published on 11 Sep 2008 by PyroSikTh
5.0 out of 5 stars Another Undervalued Band For The Brits
An album of high's and low's for the band who found fame through a Demo tape competition in a prominent metal magazine in 2000. Read more
Published on 17 Aug 2003 by Amazon Customer
5.0 out of 5 stars If only there was more than 5 stars!
Vex Red managed what I thought was impossible, and that was to take take my fave band title off the Foo Fighters. Read more
Published on 24 April 2003 by "katadaa"
4.0 out of 5 stars Sound value in silence
Purchasing the album on the strength of one auditory session of 'Itch', it was clear I was not going to be disappointed with the rest of the album. Read more
Published on 30 Mar 2003 by "kates_meep"
5.0 out of 5 stars 2 K's.... never..... Kerrang! missed off the 0 on 20!!
...............Wot can i say!? Vex Red are amazing! I bought this album when it first came out, i had only heard 'Can't smile' once and had decided to buy the album in the hope... Read more
Published on 16 Dec 2002 by William Joyce
3.0 out of 5 stars Not Bad Start
When I first heard of Vex Red, I thought "oh God, no" Ridiculously touted with tags such as the "new Nirvana", I actively avoided them. Read more
Published on 23 Nov 2002 by Dan
5.0 out of 5 stars like having them live in your room
Buy this album. If not for the music then for the energy they can transfer onto CD. This is a band who are relentless in their use of emotion through music , having been blessed to... Read more
Published on 1 Nov 2002 by Purehalo
3.0 out of 5 stars It's an ok album
This is the album I should hate. I mean, despise. But I can't. There's a nagging voice at the back of my head, saying "for fück's sake, this is a Linkin Park record with emo... Read more
Published on 19 Aug 2002 by cmdrdeathguts
4.0 out of 5 stars Catchy tunes, rocks hard
I bought this on the strength of 'Can't Smile' and was not disappointed. If you like other young metal bands such as Puddle of Mud, you'll appreciate this - just good songs... Read more
Published on 1 May 2002
5.0 out of 5 stars Mind blowing debut
Vex Red are truly one of the most exciting new bands for a while, and this debut is absolutely stunning. Terry's voice is great and delivers the beautiful melodies perfectly. Read more
Published on 21 Mar 2002 by Offbeat Music
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