fo real. i am saying this now after owning this cd for 12 yrs. this is just some catchy, not your run-of-the mill (thank you walter!) hardcore. like many of its peers, it has an appeal to those individuals who find it important to stay true to yourself. the album is not "a call to arms" as one hapless person put it. they do endorse straightedge on one song, and vegetarianism on another (cats and dogs) but not in a hardline way. they are actually one of the most positive and open minded hardcore bands to emerge from that scene. (as well as youth of today and well most of them really) they want people to give each other a chance, they want people to be who they are, they want people to stop fighting, start loving. its not to far off from what many hippies in the sixties believed. (as radically different as they are) but with the gorila biscuits there is an urgency to this message. we need to start today. the hippies have great ideals, but they are too lax to make change, these kids have aggresion, they wont sit around, they'll scream it out loud in hopes that people are listening. now hopefully you'll get it and love it, like i and so many other have... the music is fast punk with great NYC hardcore breakdowns. wally is a great musician then and now (check quicksand and rival schools) and civ is just a your angry teen spouting his anger at societies collapse. biddip bo!