This item needed a bit more work than the roller for my (VERY UNCONVENTIONAL!) purpose - was to have have been central part of a flexatone (yep, you guessed it - another percussion instrument !!!) ... but after a bit of 'jiggery pokery' I made it into something COMPLETELY new ... new word in the dictionary (mine!) - a SPATCH (don't ask me to explain how I got it to work or what that is; it'd take too long !!!). So there it is in situ on my kit also ... making just the sounds I wanted when scraped with my hotrod: just goes to show you once again, doesn't it? (see my review of the paint roller) ...