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Shadows Of The Mind: A Search for the Missing Science of Consciousness [Paperback]

Roger Penrose
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7 Sep 1995

Shadows of the Mind is a profound exploration of what modern physics has to tell us about the mind, and a visionary description of what a new physics - one that is adequate to account for our extraordinary brain - might look like. It is also a bold speculation on the biological process that makes consciousness what it is.

In this illuminating book Penrose provides powerful arguments to support his conclusion that there is something in the conscious activity of the brain that transcends computation - and will find no explanation in terms of present-day science.

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  • Paperback: 480 pages
  • Publisher: Vintage; New Ed edition (7 Sep 1995)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0099582112
  • ISBN-13: 978-0099582113
  • Product Dimensions: 12.9 x 3 x 19.8 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.7 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (7 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 114,888 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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Penrose has come closer than anyone to a rigorous discussion of the most intriguing problems of all: what are we? How do we think? And what is it that makes us human? (The Times )

Clearly the product of a brilliant mind (Times Literary Supplement )

His book may be the first accessible report to a general readership about the site, if not the actual substance, of the holy grail of consciousness - the precise point where quantum activity interacts with classical physical activity in the brain... His passionate attempt at popular exposition lends importance to a debate that he believes too crucial to be left to the specialists alone (Sunday Times )

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By the author of The Emperor's New Mind

'One of the most important works of the second half of the twentieth-century' The Times

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14 of 15 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Deep debate on the Mind Machine problem 25 Sep 2010
Shadows of the Mind is undoubtedly a less populist book than its predecessor "The Emperor's New Mind". It is also significantly more technical in places than the predecessor. Its purpose is to extend the Godel based arguments used in ENM in several directions. Firstly to attempt to address various criticisms of the central argument of the previous book and then to develop some new ones. Also there is a discussion of the application to Robotics. An example of this sort of discussion is whether any capability of a Robot to learn would undo any of the Robot restrictions deduced in his basic argument. After all learning (human or robotic) will imply going beyond previous restrictions and being aware of new facts.

So there is a subtle argument needed to continue to show that despite this, humans will come out on top. If you are interested in this kind of subtlety after reading ENM then this is the book for you.

In effect Penrose is right at the heart of the Mind-Machine debate in this book. I give an overview of this debate as follows:

We need to find a scientific theory of the Mind. So we can examine what kind of cognitive or thinking device it might be, recognising that it also thinks about Mathematics. For that we need a model of cognition sufficiently general: the Turing Machine model is available and generally considered to be that model - there are no obvious rivals. So one can focus on whether the Turing Machine model could really be a model for the Human Mathematical Mind. If the answer is "yes" we would conclude also: Robots could have Minds.

Penrose draws the conclusion about mathematical reasoning that:

G: "Human mathematicians are not using a knowably sound algorithm in order to ascertain mathematical truth".
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35 of 40 people found the following review helpful
Shadows of the mind is a terrific book from a brilliant author.

Penrose's argument that conscious thought is not based on computation as we understand it is sound. Whether this can be strictly ascertained from Godel's theorem is still open to question I think.

However his overall conclusion that when we think, we may be using quantum mechanical counterfactuals to take us beyond the limits of computation, is an intriguing possibility.

I would recommend this book strongly to anyone with a reasonably high level of scientific education. Its hard work to read because the questions he asks are so deep and his approach to answering them is so exhaustively rigorous.

Penrose is not an evangelist like Richard Dawkins so his writing style is not as engaging to a popular audience. Nevertheless it is worth ploughing through this book to at least be rewarded in the end with the firm belief that one is definitely not merely a computer controlled robot!

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The purpose of this book is to explore the connection between what is known in the areas of mathematics and physics to the way in which human brains function. Quite apart from this, the book is an excellent commentary on some on the more significant developments in physics and mathematics during the last hundred years. It is written so as to be readable by the non-scientist but those without a scientifc background could find some parts heavy going.
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5.0 out of 5 stars The Quest for Consciousness 17 May 2010
"Shadows of the Mind" addresses first, all of the arguments Professor Penrose had to counter regarding the assertions he made in "The Emperor's New Mind." He then goes on to hint at an approach to the subject of consciousness, the great puzzle that science has heretofore been unable to tackle, and has therefore denied.

It provides an exceptional mental excursion into the questions surrounding the subject of consciousness, as well as the peculiar nature of matter.

Why is it that a physicist is the one to tackle this subject as opposed to a biologist?

Professor Penrose suggests that physicists may be in a better position to comprehend how matter really behaves than biologists are.

Read it for yourself to see whether he is right.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Nicely written but wrong 17 Nov 2000
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Penrose writes lucidly, and while not as engaging as some other pop science writers (e.g. Dawkins) is still easy to read.

However he is also a grossly mistaken man who has strayed far from his own field - a good Mathematical Physicist he may be but he's no Philosopher or Psychologist.

The main argument of the book centres around Godel's Theorem (or rather Turing's formally equivalent version) to show that mathematical reasoning is non-computational.

This basically begins with the premise 'assume that A is the algorithm which can decide if any given algorithm will terminate' and ends with the contradiction 'if A terminates then A never terminates'.

Penrose concludes that therefore A never terminates and that we must have used a non-algorithmic method for telling this ourselves (since A is the best algorithmic method).

However Penrose has misrepresented Godel, the actual conclusion is the falsity of the premise (that there could ever actually be an algorithm which would tell us if any algorithm terminates).

If Penrose is right and A never terminates then he has violated the initial premise of what A does and invalidated the whole argument.

The whole book then flows from this failure of logical reasoning to a far-out theory of consciousness that is highly implausible and scientifically naive.

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