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by Terry Pratchett (Author), Ian Stewart (Author), Jack S. Cohen (Author)
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  • Paperback: 384 pages
  • Publisher: Ebury Press; New edition edition (1 May 2003)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 0091888050
  • ISBN-13: 978-0091888053
  • Product Dimensions: 17.8 x 10.4 x 2.6 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.6 out of 5 stars See all reviews (19 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.co.uk Sales Rank: 12,357 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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Like its predecessor, The Science of Discworld II contains a short Discworld fantasy by Terry Pratchett whose chapters alternate with popular science commentary from Ian Stewart and Jack Cohen.

In the Discworld strand, the bickering Unseen University wizards revisit their accidental creation Roundworld--that astonishing place where there's no magic. Our world, in fact. But it's being influenced by elves (bad news in the Pratchett cosmos), who bring superstition and irrational terrors to evolving humanity. They feed on fear.

This is the cue for Stewart and Cohen to develop their ideas of stories as a shaping power in the evolution of human intelligence. Whether they're called spells, memes, creeds, theorems, artworks or lies, satisfying stories are Roundworld's equivalent of Discworld magic. It's just that it all happens in our heads: "headology" as top witch Granny Weatherwax puts it.

Struggling to make Roundworld history come out right despite elvish interference, the wizards entangle themselves in complications of time travel and must eventually beg advice from Granny. To encourage a rational attitude to facts, it seems, Roundworld needs transcendent fictions--represented, in narrative shorthand, by the works of one William Shakespeare. The trick is to make sure he gets born...

The racy exposition of the non-fiction chapters covers plenty of ground, including astrology, cargo cults, phase spaces, information theory, and the evolution of species, art, science and religion, all reflecting the human tendency not to let facts spoil a good story. Meanwhile the Discworld chapters--though sometimes disappointingly short--are fast and funny, climaxing with much unscripted action at the first night of a famous play. The Science of Discworld II is ultimately entertaining and genuinely thought-provoking, as expected from this team. Laugh and learn! --David Langford --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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31 of 32 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars What an enthralling and amazing book!, 17 Jul 2002
The Science of Diskworld II: The Globe

What an enthralling and amazing book! My overall reaction is an incredible jealousy for the writing skills that allow the authors expound such deep understanding of the strengths and foibles of both physics and neuropsychobiology in such an accessible way. In my own way, paltry compared to their powers of exposition, I have been attempting to communicate the same information to my graduate students. I bow my head to them in respect for their ability to display and annihilate some of the myths of science without denigrating science.

The art of teaching is to capture the attention of the student, not, as some believe, to anesthetize them with droning recitation that at best transfers information from the notebook of the professor to the laptop of the student without passing through the brain of either. Pratchett, Stewart, and Cohen achieve their goal by contrasting our world with one that runs on magic (Pratchett's Diskworld series), a series with which the authors expect familiarity. If you do not have this familiarity, you have a treat in store. However, the alternate chapters that deal with the underlying science are well worth reading by themselves. The explain the science clearly and punctuate the exposition with hilarious one liners whose meaning
only deepens upon further introspection.

"We are proud we live in the Information Age. We do, and that is the trouble. If we ever get to the Meaning Age, we'll finally understand where we went wrong."

"Technology isn't science. The two are closely associated: technology helps advance science and science helps to advance technology. Technology is about making things work without understanding them; science is about understanding things without making them work." (This is a point that even the leaders of the American Optical Society failed to grasp a few years ago when they tried, mercifully unsuccessfully, to merge an Optical science society with an optics technology society.)

"Many elderly scientists go through what is sometimes called a 'philosopause'. They stop doing science and take up not very good philosophy instead." (Do I need to name names?)

On a different level, leaving aside the one-liners, the book presents a most accessible and cogent description of the human condition, emphasizing the role of pattern recognition and 'stories' in the daily affairs of man, concepts supported by the body of recent research in the neurosciences. Convincing examples from politics, religion, and social customs abound. Stories/patterns are what permit us to extrapolate into the future from present events.

The book concludes with: "The [stories] we've got have brought us a long way. Plenty of creatures are intelligent but only one tells stories. That's us Pan narrans. And what about Homo sapiens? Yes, we think that would be a very good idea ..."

To which I can only add, Amen, and urge you to read the book and allow yourself to be entertained while novel ideas infiltrate your mind.

Thomas P. Vogl, Ph.D. , 7/17/2002

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51 of 54 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars It's a mad world, my masters., 1 May 2002
Forget Genesis, forget the Big Bang. The earth was not created by some higher being (though they themselves might argue otherwise), but by a bunch of roudy wizards from another part of the multiverse.

In the original Science of the Discworld, Earth, or rather 'Roundworld' (but that's not possible, things would fall off the bottom), was created as an annomilous by-product of splitting the 'thaum' - the magical equivalent of the atom, understood by few, abused by many
(especially if it involves fireworks directed at other wizards).

The Science of the Discworld told the story of Roundworld, from creation to destruction, and the scientific princpals behind it. The narrative of Terry Prachett provided a witty medium through which Messieurs Stewart and Cohen could explain to the masses why things are as they are.

But wizards are wizards. Once the initial excitement wore off, the mini-universe got shunted out of the way. After all "It mostly had ice ages, and was less engrossing than an ant farm." But they missed something. Us. More to the point, the elves didn't.

The Discworldian story can be read pretty much as a self-contained novella, but a)that is not the point and b)you miss half the fun. While all the ingredients of Pratchett's humour and 'narrativium' remain, we are gently lead into the seemingly daunting world of science.

It is a world which many would have hoped to have left behind at school, but while we are not spoon-fed the 'children-lies' told at schools, we are not inundated with overly complicated description and jargon. The balance is very difficult to maintain, but Messieurs Stewart and Cohen manage admirably.

It is a study of humanity, from prehistoric origins to modern existence; from birth and through life; exploring why we are here (because a meteorite killed the crabs - see Science of the Discworld I) and why London still isn't a Neandathal encampment. It is the exploration of mind, intelligence, art and science. With gags.

Some previous knowledge of the Discworld setting is needed to give full weight to the book; the development of Hex, for example is covered in numerous novels. However, for the general purposes of the book, one can read it having only read the first Science of the Discworld.

To those who love the Discworld, I'd say that even just the story is worth it, but the sciency bits are not incomprehensible and makes the series better. If this is the first book on Discworld that you've read, I'd say wait until reading #1, or even a couple of the novels themselves (Lords and Ladies is particularly relevant to this one).

Over all, a brilliant read, definitely something to fill some of the gap before the next novel.

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21 of 22 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Very enjoyable although not as good as the original, 17 May 2002
I read the original Science of Discworld a while back now and was very impressed at both the story and the scientific commentary. The commentary itself took a very wide scope covering everything from the beginning of the Universe, to Cohen and Stewarts concept of 'extelligence'.

This book takes a slightly different approach. It covers the bit the original left out, i.e. us! The breadth of commentary is still expansive, although there is a strange fascination with Narritvium (you have to be a Terry Pratchett fan!) and it delves into many topics concerning human evolution and development.

Pratchett (as always) tells an interesting story and calls on some of the favourites to add extra depth to the narrative (Granny Weatherwax is mentioned), which holds the story together nicely.

My only complaint would be that due to the constraints on material, the scientific narrative is perhaps laboured somewhat. It is still compelling and insightfull, but when every other chapter talks about 'extelligence' again, it is slightly irritating.

Apart from that, it is an all round excellent book that perhaps only slightly pales compared to the earlier publication.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Yet another excellent book!
Although a slight detour from the norml type of Discworld book, I found the combination of the story (which was great) and the explanations of the real science behind the story to... Read more
Published 17 months ago by N. Grace

4.0 out of 5 stars Not as good as the first.....
I like Pratchett, and I like science, and I liked the first SODW book. However, this one doesn't weave the two strands quite so elegantly, and to some extent, the discworld part... Read more
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5.0 out of 5 stars Great read, good science introduction
I found this book an entertaining and critical read on numerous issues of science, especially the 'human' sciences. Read more
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5.0 out of 5 stars The rise of the storytelling ape
Try enlivening a party with this question: "What's on your mind?" When the babble has become truly raucous, ask another: "How did it get in there? Read more
Published on 9 April 2005 by Stephen A. Haines

5.0 out of 5 stars Brilliant!
This book is fantastic - raising many very interesting issues. I enjoyed it more than the first book (which I loved! Read more
Published on 5 Jan 2005

2.0 out of 5 stars Ian & Jack are nothing but pompous & ignorant buffoons
I am a huge Terry Pratchett Fan & enjoy reading his books. However while I enjoyed the Science of Discworld 1, I feel anybody who wishes to enjoy The Globe had better be prepared... Read more
Published on 8 Aug 2004 by Dr.Barrett

1.0 out of 5 stars I Threw this in the Trash
In contrast to some of the reviews posted here, this book does not 'mix' science and fantasy -- the two strands are kept quite separate. Read more
Published on 19 Dec 2003

5.0 out of 5 stars A ponder
This is not a proper Discworld adventure, this should not surprise those that read The Science of Discworld I. Read more
Published on 18 Oct 2003 by stalfur

1.0 out of 5 stars Best series ever! However...
The Discworld series is exactly what I am looking for.
Lotsa laughs, magic, and even a good story line. Read more
Published on 25 Aug 2003 by Gaollenaer

3.0 out of 5 stars Not as good as the first science of discworld but some merit
Definitely not as good as the first book, but the discworld chapters are entertaining. I found the "science" sections to be really tough going and dare I say it, on the boring... Read more
Published on 1 Aug 2003

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