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Refining the Theory [CD]

Miocene Audio CD
4.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (16 customer reviews)
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  • Audio CD (4 Dec 2000)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: CD
  • Label: Infernal
  • ASIN: B000050XM4
  • Other Editions: Audio CD
  • Average Customer Review: 4.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (16 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 203,551 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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Miocene - Refining the Theory

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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars The Best Debut Since........ 2 April 2002
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
......well since so far back I can't remember. This band take in a HELL of a lot of ground, from the jarring angular structures of Tool, right through to some of the most unearthly sounds you've ever heard. They also occasionally hit a groove that brings up shades of Kyuss - to me anyway. The range of songs is also impressive, from the in-your-face-ness of 'Fits...' and 'Rivets' through the brooding metal of 'Pure' to the stunning 'Shine' this is a band you ignore at your peril. They don't want to be huge, but it will happen regardless if subsequent releases follow this awesome beginning.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars British metal is on the rise! 27 Sep 2001
Format:Audio CD
Miocene have been hailed as Britains answer to Tool. Miocene along with bands such as Lostprophets, Crackout, Landmine Spring and Kilkus show that the rock world in the UK is developing into a country with something to prove. Although at first the album didn't strike me as nothing special it slowly grew on me and I've realised that this is a very good album. They have a very good raw sound and this would be a must for all you UK metal fans out there!
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
there an amazing live act, and this album is evan better, they are one of the most vibrant new groups around at the moment. they pulse energy in there performance and this is one of the most listenable albums you will get from a relitively new group, and its got some really good tunes on it. best i think is probely 'Fits Like That'. but all in all a good album and well worth checking out,and deffinetly try and see them live if u get the chance
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
When i first had the luck to hear this album it was at work after i had heard 'Fits like that' on a sample cd. i thought it was the freshed and most orginial piece of music i had heard in a long time and when i had the fortune of hearing them live at the scala when they supported Raging Speedhorn i was totally blown away by the energy and controll that they showed on stage. They are soon to become one of the biggest bands to be heard by the UK and they have already taken the crown of the the UK hardcore scene with Raging Speedhorn and Knucledust.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Soul Food 28 Jan 2001
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
Miocene make the most gloriously emotive euphonies I have ever encountered. Slipping seamlessly from batteringly brutal cacophonies of noise, to mellifluous soundscapes; the hackneyed expression of 'light and shade' does Miocene no justice. From the outset, 'Refining The Theory' promises to tear you world down - and it doesn't disappoint. Brutish opener, 'Rivets' is beautifully offset by the schizophrenic '9mm High and Rising' and the brooding 'Shine', with it's magnificently ardent chorus, building to a soul-shattering climax.
Comparisons to other bands, drawn by the press, may provide the curious with a guide as to what one might expect from Miocene, but they are spurious in their suggestions that Miocene are anything approaching nu-metal clones; they reach far beyond that. Miocene rock my world - and they will rock your's too.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Improve your life but a copy 7 Dec 2000
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
'Refining The Theory' is the long awaited release from Miocene and the wait was definitely worth it, from start to finish this is a joy to listen to, every song stands on its own two feet, you will not tire of playing this over and over, I guarantee you will find someone new each time you listen to it, from the beautfiul guitars to the intense singing. If you want to get an idea of what Miocene sound like I will need more than 1000 words, yes you can draw comparisons with their influences but Miocene are so much more than just a covers band.stop reading this and buy it.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Blinding! 22 Mar 2001
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
This is a great debut album. I know this only has 7 tracks on it,but so wot. It goes on for about 50 minutes which is longer than Blink 182's "Enema of the state" album which goes on for only 40 minutes about. I predict that this band will be big in their years to come. They are wicked and the are fuckin fantastic live as I saw them supporting Sunna.Get this album if you are into stuff like Deftones and Linea 77. You'll love it!
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3 of 4 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Patchy, but full of potential... 20 Mar 2002
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
This records, as underpinned by the other review here,does have a raw sound - but one that can only be accounted for as poor production values, and while Miocene use this records to try to distance themselves from the nu-metal also rans of both Britain and the US, they still work to a system of convention here. Verses and choruse are all accounted for, and while there is some spare and almost provocative (when brought into context wt the crushing nature of the rest of heir music) does add some contrast to their music, it soes little for originality - nothing here cannot be found on other bands material who have had far longer to hone their respective skills.
Despite this, the technica nature, emotion, power and occasional deftness of the album pull it through, and Miocene certainly are in the possesion of at least a spark of greatness, and with the excellent dynamics of tracks such as 9mm High and Rising, this is certainly no debut to be ashamed of.
However, if you enjoy Miocene for their verve, musicianship, variety and ability to utilise totally different genres within the same musical structures, then checkout their latest EP Cellular Memory, which is a leap and a bound ahead of this, providing elegant and occasionaly beautiful metal soundscapes poised alongside jazz and the contemporary drum n` bass stylings of bands such as squarepusher and the aphex twin; a record which sounds the way I think Miocene wanted it to sound - and is a step on the ladder to (relative) greatness.
This mini-album is the sound of a band taking its first few teetering steps. Get Cellular Memory, and you'll see them flex their new found muscle.
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Most Recent Customer Reviews
4.0 out of 5 stars Tribal, Brooding, Spiritual, Crushing, Powerful, Unique.
Although not as inspirational, so far, as bands like A Perfect Circle and maybe Tool (at their best), Miocene have a unique sound where the guitar and vocals produce a touching... Read more
Published on 11 Mar 2002
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent debut from one of Britain's best bands
From the opening explosion of "rivets" (a personal special place) through the well known "fits" and the dazzling "shine" (which drags you in and then... Read more
Published on 26 Feb 2002
5.0 out of 5 stars Just Amazing!
I first heard Miocene on a sample CD at the beggining of 2001 with the song Fits Like That. From the first moment I put the album I thought it was great and it shows that British... Read more
Published on 12 Feb 2002 by Nick Cooper
5.0 out of 5 stars Now here's something that oozes style....
On "Refining the Theory" you will hear true musical talent, in the form of explosive melodies, haunting, frantic vocals and tribal beats, the energy from which will leave... Read more
Published on 9 Mar 2001
5.0 out of 5 stars The best new british metal band
Ok, looking at the album overall, there are going to be the old 'Sounds like Tool/Deftones' thing going on...but to be honest, it doesn't. Read more
Published on 6 Mar 2001 by "plum_leahboy"
4.0 out of 5 stars This album is the start of something amazing.
This album is long waited for those who have been following miocene for the last year or so. This album just simply proves why they are gonna be big and shows why they practically... Read more
Published on 13 Dec 2000
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