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Programming with Microsoft Visual Basic.NET: Comprehensive Edition: An Object-oriented Approach [Paperback]

Michael Ekedahl , William Newman


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9 Aug 2002 0619016582 978-0619016586 Bk&CD-Rom
This text is designed for a comprehensive Visual Basic course for students with little programming background. Its approach is object-oriented and data-driven. It introduces programming techniques through exercises and case problems.

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  • Paperback: 832 pages
  • Publisher: Course Technology Inc; Bk&CD-Rom edition (9 Aug 2002)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0619016582
  • ISBN-13: 978-0619016586
  • Product Dimensions: 27.9 x 21.6 x 2.5 cm
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 3,509,320 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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Amazon.com: 2.1 out of 5 stars  14 reviews
8 of 8 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Not worth lining a bird cage with!!!!! 22 Mar 2003
By Darknight07 - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback
...This book was required for a VB .Net programming class I took at a local College. Out of 25 people no one found the book helpful in any area of learning programming. I even talked with some friends in other VB classes that were using the same book and their classmates responses were the same as ours. By midway through the quarter the instructor had all but abandoned using the book as a reference for the class. Instead of being called comprehensive it should have been called incomprehensible!
The Author's idea of programming examples is to show just a couple lines of code instead of how the code would be used in a program. The practice exercises call for you to use the author's prewritten code (which you have to download) and alter a couple lines of code to accomplish your task. This is not programming...
Most of the subjects that were covered were presented in such a poor method that the reader is left more confused after reading the topic than before. The book was espicially bad on Printing, Collections, Classes, and Load/Save to/from a file.
When you try to recreate a program using the author's code and making changes that you are instructed to perform about a third of the time the program will fail and the book provides such poor information that you can not troubleshoot the problem....
7 of 8 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Avoid this book: quality control lacking 3 Feb 2003
By Rex M. Jacobsen - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback
This book was used in our introductory VB.Net class. My fellow students and I were not happy with this book.
Problems with the book:
1) A programming concept is explained one way and then later used in a different way. For instance, the authors use "controlchars.crlf" to insert a carriage return/line feed. Later the author uses "crlf" to accomplish the same thing. The author fails to tell us that to do this, the programmer must
type "Imports Microsoft.VisualBasic.ControlChars" at the top of the file. Doing a task in 2 different ways without explaining the necessary steps leaves students confused, frustrated, and wary of using a Course.com book again.
2) The author's code doesn't always work properly. Chapter 7's exercise 1 is an example of this.
3) Exercises that are designed to teach a simple concept are often so overly complex that the reader doesn't learn the simple concept at all. Exercise 1 in chapter 7 is one example of this. It tries to teach how to read data from a file and then perform a mathematical calculation on the accumulated data. The data that the authors have the reader import into their program is so large that it is cumbersome for the reader to check if the program is working correctly. This exercise needed to be scaled back; instead of reading in hundreds of numbers and then averaging them, how about merely reading in 2 or 3 numbers so the beginner programmer can easily tell if his program is working correctly? Apparently the authors had trouble coding this too, since their solution did not work properly.
4) There are numerous "attention to detail" mistakes; a programming book cannot afford to have these.
5) There is no errata on their web site.
When I asked the publisher for a list of corrections for the book, they said they had none and offered to pay me to quality-check the book for them. A quality-check should have been done long before it was ever published. This book has the feel of one that was rushed out the door to be one of the first introductory VB.Net books on the market.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Great teacher, not so great book 31 Oct 2003
By A Customer - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback
I'm taking a class from the author this semester - thus my anonymity (hey, I still want a chance at a 4.0!). Mike Ekedahl is a very knowledgable resource and an excellent teacher. You wouldn't know it from reading this book though. The book is incredibly hard to understand. It's one of those books where you can read the same sentence 10 times and still not have a clue what you just read. Instead of breaking the new terminology into easier-to-understand material, the chapters use previously undefined terminology to define the new terminology making for a very difficult read. I found the MSDN library to be far more help than this book.
3 of 4 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Class revolt over this book 23 Nov 2004
By J. Callahan - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback
It's funny how perspectives from a programmer and a beginner differ so greatly on this text. I am a very successful 30 something student at a major university. I think I am qualified to say, from a beginner's standpoint, that this book leaves much to be desired. I will retread some of the same points others have made here.

The book is intentionally vague: As beginners, students need to grasp basic programming concepys and styles. This text seems to often avoid explaining these basic concepts. The text also does not offer examples of good efficient code or practices. The teacher materials (assignments) intentionally ask for things not discussed in the chapters, The exams are designed to trick the student rather than test understanding of concepts. Forcing sheer memorization over understanding is a bad way to start learning. Example: Which of the following are properties of the Color Structure? a. R,G,B / b. ColorRed,ColorBlue,ColorRed / c. Alpha / d. All of the above - if you answered A you are correct -but Alpha is also a property of the color structure. That's not inportant. A is the answer.

Examples sometimes don't work: Code examples in Chapter 6 fail to work. What's worse, the publisher's web site does not correct this issue. If you plan on drawing text onto a form prepare to do some reading on the outside in order to accomplish this task.

Not easy to read: As mentioned, this text is full of run on sentenses, disjointed and technical. Technical is good, but some plain english explanations would help the BEGINNER to grasp concepts.

Class revolt over the text: As mentioned, students in my class have openly criticized this text. (They actually begged the teacher to just code in VB and explain what's happening over usung the text) These complaints were brought to not only to the teacher, but to the head of the department.

If you are teacher and want to teach VB to beginners, look at some of the other suggestions posted here. This text makes learning VB a chore. People want to be challenged, but also have fun learning something as powerful and simple as VB.NET.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Difficult to use with no complete code samples 3 Oct 2003
By Wise Snatch - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback
I found this book very difficult to use and overly complex for beginner VB.NET programmers. I have been using this book for a class at a local college for about 8 weeks now and have resorted to using other books to help me with my assignments.
The things I disliked the most:
1) The book was not designed with ease of use and easy reading in mind. The majority of the book is run-on text. Code samples require more searching to find.
2) Each chapter should have one complete program to learn from. It is far easier to learn how to program when a book includes the code for an entire program that has been presented through walk-throughs in the chapters.
Things I liked about the book:
1) The authors did show several coding methods to use to accomplish the same task.
Overall though, Neither I, nor my classmates, liked the book. If you are an instructor thinking of selecting this book for your class, don't. Consider the book "Programming in Visual Basic .NET" by Julia Case Bradley and Anita C. Millspaugh instead. It offers everything this book doesn't.
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