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Patience: Remastered & Recovered

Peter Hammill Audio CD
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  • Audio CD (31 July 2006)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Fie
  • ASIN: B000GH3DSI
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 124,772 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

1. Labour of Love
2. Film Noir
3. Just Good Friends
4. Jeunesse Doree
5. Traintime
6. Now More Than Ever
7. Comfortable
8. Patient

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CD With K Group His Twelfth Album (1983)

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4.0 out of 5 stars The K group at its best 5 Jun 2000
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
Another Hammill outing with his band the 'K' group. Two beautiful love songs - 'Labour of Love' and 'Just Good Friends'. But its with 'Traintime' that the fun really begins - uncompomising Hammill thrashed out in the form of travelling on a train through life itself. C.D. worth buying just for this one. Likewise 'Comfortable' will be on your mind for ages, and by the time you've finished with the title track you'll be a nervous wreck!
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6 of 7 people found the following review helpful
By Stephen Andrews VINE VOICE
Format:Audio CD
Undoubtedly one of the most revisited albums by PH in live performance. 'Patient' and 'Just Good Friends' have peppered his set-lists ever since this one came out. The band approach - Nic Potter (bass); John Ellis (guitar); Guy Evans (drums); plus occasional sax sprinkling by Jaxophone - was the first/next appearance of the K Group (See 'Enter K' and 'The Margin' for further footnotes on this dynamic beat ensemble). The ground sepia-covered is quite immense, but the players remain fleet of foot and finger, negotiating with bravado and seeming nerves of steel the frantic twists and turns of some tricky time-signatures and toons. Hammill's voice is notable here for being particularly nasal - as if he'd just had his adenoids removed. Whatever, his time/space/love/faith obsessions remain intact. Top talent. Top album. I'll give it *****, easy, mate ...
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5.0 out of 5 stars Rockier Side Of Peter Hammill 28 Aug 2010
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Peter Hammill has written so many great songs over the years and in so many styles. Also the production quality has varied almost as much which is fair enough considering his pioneering D.I.Y. approach to recording. Put simply this is Hammill in Rock-out mode with his 'K group' and the production is sweet! Personally I can't think of a better introduction To Peter Hammill's work before dipping your toes into his more esoteric or challenging side.

Why is Peter Hammill not considered to be a national hero? He is to me!! Highly recommended
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3.0 out of 5 stars Patience 2006 remaster 6 Dec 2013
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The K group period is far from my personal favourite point in PH's career, hence the 3 star rating (I'd give 3 and a half if the system would let me). That rating, however, is in comparison to most of his work which in my opinion comes in at four and five stars most times. Patience contains staples of Hammill's live set in Traintime and Patient and has one track- Comfortable?- which I would rate as a contender for a "best of" album. The rest aren't bad either and fans of the band approach will appreciate the presence of Guy Evans,the late Nic Potter, John Ellis, Jaxon, Stuart Gordon and David Lord. As for PH: he's head and shoulders above his singer/songwriter contemporaries.
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4.0 out of 5 stars mixed bag, but the good stuff is great 24 Jan 2008
By Andreas C G - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD|Verified Purchase
Patience - Peter Hammill
Enter K - Peter Hammill Enter K

I am going to do something slightly different here. I will cover these two CD's together in one review. The two share several characteristics that make them two peas in a pod, or perhaps two half-peas. Both were recorded, in 1982 and 1983, by the so-called K Group, which included long-time associates of Hammill's who have been in Van Der Graaf Generator at some point or other. This band approach is in contrast to Hammill's DIY approach on most of his albums (Hammill plays all, or almost all, the instruments on many albums). What influence the individual members of the so-called "beat combo" as he facetiously calls it, had on the music is not clear, but the two CD's are definitely moving into a more straight-ahead approach, compared to his earlier work. This was a trend already evident on the previous album "Sitting Targets" (recommended, BTW Sitting Targets). There are fewer avant-garde touches than found on earlier albums (unfortunate in my opinion).

I refer to them as "two half-peas in a pod" because in both cases half the songs are top quality Peter Hammill material, while the other half is decidedly weaker. The better songs on both would actually mix well into one excellent CD. On both albums the "rockers" in general are weaker, whereas the slower and more complex songs stand up. The faster songs just sound too "80's" in a bad way. I was unfamiliar with this material in those days, so I can only react to it listening to it in 2008. Unfortunately some of the choices in the sound and mix have not stood the test of time. Some of these numbers just sound like he's trying too hard to be "modern". I just cannot warm up to "Jeunesse D'Oree" at all, for instance. Of the two, I would say "Patience" is the more consistent one.

The best songs on both albums have all the characteristics that make Peter Hammill such a unique and wonderful artist - the moody overtones, the multi-layered, thought-provoking lyrics, the unexpected twists and turns, and of course his outstanding vocals. Here are my comments on various songs on both albums. I put asterisks after the ones I like:

Enter K:
1. Paradox Drive - at first I hated the semi-disco beat. Not a great song, but I've warmed up to it.
2. Unconscious Life* - Very good
3. Accidents* - Has that 80's sound but it grew on me a lot. Dark & complex. Very good
4. Great Experiment - OK
5. Don't Tell Me - Nicely sung- I like Hammill's low-register ballad style, but this one is a bit bland
6. She Wraps It Up - I don't care for this one
7. Happy Hour* - Excellent! A bar drunk as circus act, perhaps his moment in the spotlight
8. Seven Wonders* - Very Good!

Patience:
1. Labour Of Love - not a great song, but its oddness makes it interesting. Almost seems like he cut & pasted a pop song with Gabriel-ish music, with a dissonant VDGG-like instrumental section.
2. Film Noir - interesting dark lyrics. Music a bit too 80's, but decent
3. Just Good Friends* - very good ballad
4. Jeunesse d'Orée - one of my least favorite Hammill songs. I always skip this one.
5. Traintime* - great song, very dramatic, intense build-up. A couple of live versions are actually more intense, but this is great
6. Now More Than Ever - decent, not great. Music kind of sounds like 80's King Crimson.
7. Comfortable?* - Another great song, very quirky with dramatic stops & starts
8. Patient* - Perhaps the best song on both albums. Dark lyrics that are open to interpretation. One of his best tunes ever.

In a nutshell, both are mixed bags. Perhaps these are not the ones to buy first for someone new to Peter Hammill, but fans will want both of these, as they contain some top-notch material.

BTW "Room-Temperature-Live Room Temperature : The Complete Two-Disc Set has great "unplugged" versions of several of these songs , perhaps superior to the studio versions.

Also BTW on Youtube there is a video of Hammill performing "Traintime" live backed by an orchestra in 1996, which is great.
5.0 out of 5 stars Classic Hammill 15 Feb 2008
By Stephen Andrews - Published on Amazon.com
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"This CD has been unavailable for some time and I have now taken the opportunity to remaster it. The artwork has also been spruced up. This was the second album that I recorded with the members of my then touring band, the K group, in 1982/3. The previous recording (Enter K) was remastered last year and it's high time that this one, too, had some sonic afterburner applied to its tracks. Electric guitar predominates here in a direct and uncompromising fashion. At the core of things, though, is a very strong collection of songs. Several of these have become staple subjects for live performance in almost every line-up with which I've played since. Their first appearances here, though, were hardly half-baked. The recordings were made in the manner already set down with 'Enter k': half the tracks were initiated in my home studio, to be completed at Crescent Studios. The rest were started from the ground up there in a very tradtitional backing track/overdub manner." ~ Peter Hammill
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