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- Publisher: Tyndale Momentum (17 Jan. 2008)
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- Language: English
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- Average Customer Review: 43 customer reviews
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There are some extremely important facts in this church which need to be disseminated widely. And yet I frequently felt that the authors* spoiled their message by going too far with their conclusions, creating an unfair straw man representing many churches or interpreting the Bible incorrectly. To me, this book is written by a man* with an agenda rather than someone who I can trust to come up with the whole truth.
Do not give this book to an immature Christian. Most of the book is what I would regard as Romans 15 territory. I need to say:
- You are not guilty because you dress smartly to church
- You are free to go to an East-facing church with an altar if that is where you need to be
- Your haven't sinned because you tithe to a church that owns a building and employs a pastor
- Don't look down on your brother because he goes to Bible College and likes listening to sermons.
In the wrong hands, this book can make one person self-righteous, falsely guilty, or it can even cause someone to withdraw from church completely - one family I know did just this because of Frank Viola's teaching. They later regretted this and joined an elder-led church.
Let's start with what I like about it.
I `get it'! A revolution in our church life needs to take place. The old wineskins are strangling what remains of the Christian church.Read more ›
The authors do have some valid insights, especially regarding the practice of the apostolic church of being a "sharing" community, which included open and sharing ministry one to another.Quite how valid are most of the points they make will undoubtedly vary from reader to reader and may depend on how much of one's faith is invested in the institutional church itself. An interesting and informative read, if only from the historical perspective.
Having a relationship with Jesus Christ does not require all the trappings of religion: in many ways, we've been sold a bill of goods that cannot be supported by the New Testament, whether you look at the teachings of Jesus or the apostles. This book clears the table, so to speak, and encourages us to go back to the Bible for our guidance rather than the accumulated traditions of the past 1,700 years.
So if you're sick of religion, get this book! As someone recently warned about its volatile content: don't drop it, because it might explode!"
The Thin Edge
"Pushing the limits of the status quo"
Although this book bears two names as authors (Frank Viola and George Barna), frequently the author writes in the first person singular, usually putting "I (Frank) ..." (e.g., p. 234, 263, 266, 268 - I only started noting these down when I got near the end of the book.)
The book gives some interesting historical information and makes some valid points about the customs and practices of Christianity. Unfortunately, the author vastly undermines the credibility of his arguments by two most regrettable techniques:
1. He exaggerates his point.
Thus, for example, he describes the practice in some churches of having special garments for choir members as "dehumanizing" (pp 148-149) - whereas in reality in many cultures such garments are worn with pride.
2. He does not present balanced Biblical teaching.
He frequently totally ignores Bible verses that contradict what he says, and on other occasions relegates such verses to footnotes which are printed in a truly minute font size, listing the reference but not quoting the content, or he refers to such verses only in the appendices to chapters, which are also in a smaller font size and will inevitably be skipped by many readers, especially given the section title, "delving deeper", which implies that this is additional material for those who have the time to investigate the concepts more fully.
Although with my reading glasses I have normal vision, I had a to keep a powerful magnifying glass by the book for the purpose of reading the footnotes.Read more ›
Most Recent Customer Reviews
An excellent book which exposes that the origins of all the rituals and traditions of "Christian" churches have been inherited from paganism and from the second Temple... Read morePublished 2 months ago by qsbuilder
Excellent Book and a highly recommended read for all Christians especially Church Leaders...
Repairer of the Breach comes to mind in Isaiah 58?
"How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an... Read more
Girl is christian, won't go out with me cause i'm pagan. Started reading this for some incite, MFW so called Christians haven't a clue about their religion. Read morePublished 11 months ago by henry
This book is well worth the read for all spiritual Christians. If you are just a church person then it will not make any sense to you. Read morePublished 17 months ago by Justin
Excellent research book in regard to the origins of the pagan traditions in the church which also gives notes Qand As and references for further reading. Read morePublished 20 months ago by Andrea
The author makes some good points about how much of what we do in ‘church’ today bears little resemblance to the early church. Read morePublished 21 months ago by Sue
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