- Paperback: 1 pages
- Publisher: CALVARY PRESS PUBLISHING; Revised edition edition (22 Aug. 2007)
- Language: English
- ISBN-10: 1879737434
- ISBN-13: 978-1879737433
- Product Dimensions: 14 x 2.1 x 21.6 cm
- Average Customer Review: 3.7 out of 5 stars See all reviews (3 customer reviews)
- Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 232,065 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
POTTER'S FREEDOM, THE Paperback – 22 Aug 2007
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A reply to Dr Geisler who sounds the alarm about a system of beliefs commonly called 'Calvinism'. It counters the evidence against so-called 'extreme Calvinism', defines what the Reformed Faith is, and concludes that the gospel preached by the Reformers is the very one taught in the pages of Scripture.
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Since any evangelical who is not a calvinist, by White's and calvinism's dishonest reasoning; is an arminian: then this should have proved an antidote to my biblical beliefs, called calvinism by arminians. This basically contains the same old fangled arguments spued out for generations by calvinistic traditionalists with very little variation or imgination. It has been soundly refuted by Vance, Hunt and others, as well as a simple reading of the bible.
2 Peter 3:9-The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. If sovereignty were the all encompassing issue then all would be save acording to calvinists. Its small minded ireverant ideology does not allow for a God who would gather all but is hindered because "ye would not".
White's book on the KJV is just a rehash of old disproved biblical criticism and this is just a rehash of augustinian/calvinism claptrap.
I would'nt waste your time as any of the arguments that are worth studying are handled better in the anti calvinistic literature with the biblical refutations.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.
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I bought Chosen But Free (by Norman Geisler) hoping to find a good rebuttal to Calvinist doctrine so I could continue holding to my free will theology. Boy was I disappointed! Not only is his terminology offputting, but his clear hatred of the Reformed tradition shines through. On top of that, his arguments left much to be desired. I struggled through what part I could read, and couldn't finish it. He'd cite a verse to support his conclusion, and I'd look the verse up only to find it didn't say anything close to what he claimed. It was frustrating to say the least.
After that I decided to read "The Potter's Freedom." This is an excellent book even if you have never picked up "Chosen But Free". It answered many of the questions I have had, and did so in a way that didn't want to make me run away screaming. I know some Calvinsts who's presentation of the very same facts make me want to scream, or simply tune them out.
Dr. White is NOT like that. He presents his arguments based on the Biblical texts, but does so in a way that attracts you instead of repels you. I found myself getting a whole new perspective on God and His mercy that just made me so thrilled with what I was learning that I wanted to run out and share it with everyone. I can no longer hold to Arminian theology after reading this.
I don't usually give a book 5 stars, but this book earns every one of them. It's also spurred me to look into the topic more deeply and I'm deciding what to read next.
Out of both books, I believe that White's work is much better and more persuasive. White does an excellent job of delving into key texts and in the process he wrestles with them and examines them for what they are worth. His explanations for Matthew 23:37, I Timothy 2:4 and 2 Peter 3:9, although not the best, are without a doubt good attempts to refute Geisler's point-blank assertions; Geisler takes these verses at face value, while White looks at the surrounding verses and attempts to clarify what these verses are really stating. Since CBF (Chosen but Free) relies so heavily on these verses to bolster it's argument, White does some serious damage to Geisler's argument when he deals with these texts.
Furthermore, White does an excellent job of providing solid exegesis for some of the standard proof-texts of traditional Reformed theology. His analysis of John 6 and Romans 9 easily eclipses any simple exegesis provided by Geisler. His sections on John 6 and Romans 9 are very strong, but there really isn't anything new here that you can't find in other Reformed works. Every Reformed book that deals with predestination always has a section that delves deep into these chapters of Scripture.
Where the book was weak was White's insistence on his version of Total Depravity. Firstly, White gives absolutely no credible reason why Lazarus' physical condition is comparative to the natural man's spiritual condition. Using this as an example to prove total deadness and the need for new life is a serious case of eisegesis since nowhere is the idea hinted at in Scripture that Lazarus being raised from the dead is like the believer's being quickened by the Spirit. Sure White resorts to the standard proof texts of Ephesians 2:1 and Colossians 2:13 to prove his point, but does nekros have to be understood in the way White does? In John 5:25 Jesus says the dead, same word in Greek, will hear His voice and live. In Revelation 3:1, Jesus tells the people of the Church in Sardis that they are dead, same word in Greek, and exhorts them to strengthen the things that remain. Obviously, looking at how the word is used in every context one can easily understand that the word doesn't carry with it the connotation that White would like it to mean because Jesus obviously tells us that the dead can hear Him. Even though this may sound perplexing, Scripture tells us it is true. I think that dead in sin is much better understood within the context of separation as Isaiah 59 says when it states our sins have separated us from God. Furthermore, when White deals with John 5, he only touches the verses where Jesus says He gives life to whom He wills. Yeah, read by itself and in isolation from the other verses this would seem to support to Calvinism. Yet, two verses later Jesus says who He wills to give life to, the ones who hear Him and believe on His name. In verse 25, Jesus says the time is now here when the dead will hear Him and live. The order is the dead hear, believe and live; Yet, White arguing for regeneration preceding faith would have the order be receive life, hear and believe. White has turned the text on it's head and made it say something it doesn't even begin to teach. Moreover, this whole passage deals a crippling blow to White's idea of total depravity since it's the dead who hear and live. Not the elect, or the regenerate, but the dead.
Finally, White does not deal with the doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints. Geisler, who calls himself a moderate Calvinist, also believes that a believer cannot lose his salvation, but his beliefs are substantially different from those from the Reformed Camp. I really wish White would have devoted a chapter comparing Perseverance of the Saints (POTS), the traditional Reformed position, with Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS), which is the position of Geisler and moderate Calvinism. I believe White could have dealt a serious blow to Geisler's position if he would have differentiated it from the Reformed concept.
All in all, White's The Potter's Freedom is a good book. Whether one wants to learn more about Reformation doctrines, or whether one just wants to strengthen their convictions, this book is an excellent read. Although I did find a lot more weaknesses in the text my second time through, I would still recommend this book to anyone wanting to know more about the Reformation doctrines of election and grace.