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9 Out of 10 Climbers Make the Same Mistakes [Paperback]

Dave MacLeod , Claire MacLeod
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Book Description

25 Nov 2009
9 out of 10 climbers make the same mistakes - navigation through the maze of advice for the self-coached climber 9 out of 10 climbers are stuck. They are stuck on the same things. Some of the things that hold climbers back from improving their climbing standard are the same as they were twenty years ago: motivation, managing time, and not being able to analyse and correct their own basic technical or tactical errors. But they are also stuck for a new set of reasons. Twenty years ago, the problem was that no one knew how to train for climbing. Information was scarce and couldn't travel fast among the participants. Today, it's the opposite problem. Book after book lists techniques for climbing, exercises for climbing, tips for climbing. Navigating this barrage of information, filtering out the irrelevant and homing in on what matters to your life, your climbing and your circumstances has been the limiting step for today's climber. This book is the first to present the science of improving at climbing in a way that will actually help you make confident decisions and stay focused on the things that will make the biggest difference. Dave Macleod has crystallised 16 years experience as a world class climber, sport scientist and renowned coach into an accessible and thought provoking guide to improving at rock climbing.

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  • Paperback: 176 pages
  • Publisher: Rare Breed Productions; 1st edition (25 Nov 2009)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 095642810X
  • ISBN-13: 978-0956428103
  • Product Dimensions: 15.2 x 22.9 x 0.9 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (18 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 11,718 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
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Dave MacLeod is a climber based in the west highlands of Scotland. He is well known for his personal climbing achievements. He has climbed trad routes that have broken a new level of world class difficulty with Rhapsody E11 and Echo Wall E11. He has also climbed V13 in bouldering, 9a in sport climbing and XI in Scottish mixed climbing. His blog is one of the most popular climbers' blogs in the world and he has written extensively on training and improvement in climbing on his site and various other publications. His other main working activities are running a shop via his website, coaching climbers, and giving lectures. Dave and his wife Claire run Rare Breed Productions, making films, books and other creative things. Dave has a BSc in Physiology & sports science and an MSc in Medicine & science in sport & exercise.

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9 out of 10 climbers make the same mistakes - navigation through the maze of advice for the self-coached climber

9 out of 10 climbers are stuck. They are stuck on the same things. Some of the things that hold climbers back from improving their climbing standard are the same as they were twenty years ago: motivation, managing time, and not being able to analyse and correct their own basic technical or tactical errors. But they are also stuck for a new set of reasons.

Twenty years ago, the problem was that no one knew how to train for climbing. Information was scarce and couldn't travel fast among the participants. Today, it's the opposite problem. Book after book lists techniques for climbing, exercises for climbing, tips for climbing. Navigating this barrage of information, filtering out the irrelevant and homing in on what matters to your life, your climbing and your circumstances has been the limiting step for today's climber.

This book is the first to present the science of improving at climbing in a way that will actually help you make confident decisions and stay focused on the things that will make the biggest difference.

About the Author

Dave MacLeod is a climber based in the west highlands of Scotland. He is well known for his personal climbing achievements. He has climbed trad routes that have broken a new level of world class difficulty with Rhapsody E11 and Echo Wall. He has also climbed V13 in bouldering, 9a in sport climbing and XI in Scottish mixed climbing. His blog is one of the most popular climbers' blogs in the world and he has written extensively on training and improvement in climbing on his site and various other publications. His other main working activities are running a shop via his website, coaching climbers, and giving lectures. Dave and his wife Claire run Rare Breed Productions, making films, books and other creative things. Dave has a BSc in Physiology & sports science and an MSc in Medicine & science in sport & exercise.

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33 of 34 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars I'm one of the nine! 16 Dec 2009
Format:Paperback
Just finished the book and I have to say it's incredibly helpful.

Throughout the book Dave describes a series of common mistakes climbers make, and I've filled the book with post-its where he's been describing a bad habit and I suddenly realised, "Damn, that's me!" It's far easier to work out which bits of advice you need to follow than a normal training manual, and Dave's holistic approach is far more likely to make you change your habits and improve than a book full of exercises and a caption saying "Do lots of this."

The sheer practical knowledge and experience Dave has is obvious, I don't think there's a single climber in the world who won't find themselves wincing as he describes a bad habit or thought process as though he's been watching them climb for years, and subsequently full of relief when he reveals practical steps that will help. Don't expect miracle cures, but do expect to realise the effect of identifying your mistakes and working hard at them is likely to be the same.

I think this is one of the most important climbing books out there: if, like me, you've spent your climbing career psyched but confused by the vast amount of information about climbing improvement this book puts into plain words where you're going wrong and how to put it right. There's nothing too complicated to understand, and nothing too obscure to mentally write off as personally irrelevant.

I will say that if you're a regular devotee of Dave's blog and have attended one of Dave's training lectures, a good chunk of the basic ideas will be familiar, but having it compiled and organised is still incredibly useful.
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8 of 8 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars A Very Interesting Mirror. 21 Feb 2011
Format:Paperback
Eric J Horst said it best in CONDITIONING FOR CLIMBERS (Falcon Guide)The only complete instruction would be working with you on a one to one basis as a coach.

Dave Macleod has produced 164 pages of good advice. It is not a polished volume, there are mistakes but then Dave is not retired and sat at home in his study!(Nor is he into paying editors it would seem!) But to give it one or even two stars on these grounds would be 'Throwing the baby out with the bathwater' (As one of my Psychology lecturers used to say) This is a very useful opportunity to analyse yourself with the assistance of some probing questions and telling suggestions from one of the best 21st Century climbers in the UK.

Think of it as a lecture perhaps, get your pencil out and as one of the other reviewers suggested some post-it notes and use this as an opportunity to give your climbing an MoT. I'm finding it both reassuring and encouraging at the same time - my best coaches (not in climbing) have always led me to the answer and not just presented it to me, this is what Dave tries to achieve here. Do not expect a Rannulph Fiennes epic or an Eric Langmuir handbook, instead think of it as some 'good advice'. It is not all 'Sport Psychology' based - he does discuss training sessions and 'Training Rhythm' but it is very heavily bedded in psychology.

I thought it a bit expensive at the price but then what's the going rate for a seat in a lecture?
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22 of 24 people found the following review helpful
Format:Paperback
What a great read. I read 60 pages the evening the book arrived - that's pretty exceptional for book of this nature.

The fear of failure, is spot on. As a relative beginner its great to read, "So what if you fall off V1 boulder routes at the climbing wall, when you think everybody else is climbing V7's - nobody cares except you. You will improve, just get stuck in - try things and learn."

For a change I spent an entire session today climbing the boulder slab: Previously eschewed for not looking 'tough enough' to the 'audience'. I can feel my sense of balance and quality of foot hold selection has improved already. It was particularly fascinating to deliberately try different foot positions on different holds, and experiment with those that 'roll' when launching a dyno. It was also great to deliberately use the foot to 'pull' the body into the wall, and use a stiff torso to transmit this force to the hands which in turn lessens the effort required on the hands to pull into the wall.

This book really opened the door to applying a 'scientific method' of 'idea, try, feedback, modify, try again'.
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7 of 8 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Good but wordy 21 April 2010
Format:Paperback
The book gives some excellent advice which really makes you re-evaluate your approach to climbing and training. This has worked for me, helping me to concentrate on the right areas.
My only complaint is that some sections seem to waffle a little. I didn't mind this too much though, because as a climbing geek I'm happy to read anything related to climbing.
Overall a good read.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Superb book 23 Jan 2012
Format:Paperback|Verified Purchase
Although it's not aimed at beginners, I'm one (pretty much) and I found this book very useful. The main target readership is those who've been climbing for a good while, and made early progress but have reached a plateau.

It's hard-hitting, no messing around. You feel exactly as if the author were standing there talking to you - in some places, giving you a talking-to. If this sounds hectoring, it's not - it's thought-provoking and encouraging.

The essence of the message is to re-think which aspect of climbing you're putting the effort into, since it might not be the most effective for you in terms of improvement, particularly if it's something you've been doing for a while which initially helped a lot but has started to level off. He breaks down all the factors that contribute to improvement and explains how to work on each, eg fear of falling (covered in detail), strength, endurance, weight. The underlying psychology behind things is covered far better than you'd think such a short book could manage.

It's opinionated. Eg climbing is always referred to as a very specific thing - movement up rock; not sure that ignoring cardio would be wise given the long walk-in and home that might well be part of trad/winter; but that's fair enough I guess: if that's what you're into, you'll know already you need to include that too. Tiny quibble, great book. I look forward to more and I'm enjoying his blogs.
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Most Recent Customer Reviews
5.0 out of 5 stars Cool
Good book for encouraging training & explaining reasons for it.
Published 18 days ago by M. Davies
4.0 out of 5 stars A great source of hints and tips
I'm relatively new to climbing, so this book is being a great source of invaluable hints and tips with my early training
Published 10 months ago by Damian
5.0 out of 5 stars Written for me
Dave MacLeod could have been writing for me. The first sections describe almost perfectly my present experience in climbing and the psychological and emotional framework... Read more
Published 13 months ago by Dogbury
5.0 out of 5 stars another of the nine!
As a relatively new climber (Aug 12) I picked up this book to read on a long train journey after buying it for my boyfriend (he hasn't read it yet) Its really struck a cord with me... Read more
Published 16 months ago by Miss.Crafty
4.0 out of 5 stars Practical advice
I'm one of those people who tends to read a lot of internet forums, buys several books and asks for a lot of feedback and advice from friends when I want to get better at... Read more
Published on 7 April 2012 by fkoepping77
4.0 out of 5 stars A good read
This book is written in a stroy like style and reading it in that fashion makes it a great read about training. Read more
Published on 8 Mar 2012 by duzinga
5.0 out of 5 stars Invaluable
I admit I was a little disappointed when my copy of Nine out of Ten Climbers... first arrived. Fifteen pounds seems like a lot of money for a slim volume without any of the colour... Read more
Published on 26 Jan 2012 by B. Croft
2.0 out of 5 stars There is better out there.
The big problem with this book is its very poor structure. The contents have about 1 million references so it is impossible to use it as a reference book, its a story book only. Read more
Published on 25 Jan 2012 by Hermit
5.0 out of 5 stars 9 out 0f 10 climbers
A great book with easy to understand advice. A lot of Dave's comments made me stop and think "of course, that's so simple! Why didn't i think of that?! Read more
Published on 5 Aug 2011 by guiri james
5.0 out of 5 stars Enjoyed
Really helpful book which I enjoyed reading. I think there is a lot of good advice in it for really pushing your grade and climbing at a higher level or at least understanding why... Read more
Published on 16 Jun 2011 by zoek5m
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