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8 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Mixed feelings...,
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This review is from: New Weird, The (Paperback)
I liked City of Saints and Madmen by Vandermeer and his role as editor was the main reason why I bought this book. It's a mixed bag. While most of the stories are very well written, much better than the typical "genre fiction" short story on the market, they often lack any meaningful plot or any bigger point. But your mileage may vary: Watson's Boy for example is plotless and, after re-reading it, I am still unable to see its eventual deeper significance (if it has any)... However, I enjoyed it for its musicality and absurd repetitive weirdness, much in the same way I enjoy listening to some of Steve's Reich pieces. Barker, Ford, Koja were also quite good. Miéville's story is best described as typical of him. While it doesn't work for me, one can't dispute the fact that it was cleanly executed (if I dare say so).
I would have given 4 stars if they had omitted the completely useless reprint of an Internet forum discussion about the genre and the ponderous dissertations by other editors. While the "New Weird" is an interesting sub-genre, it certainly doesn't deserve to be analyzed ad nauseam as if it was a fundamental revolution in literature. Even if I am wrong and it is - hey, you never know - navel gazing doesn't really add much.
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3.5 out of 5 stars (11 customer reviews) 18 of 24 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Not Free SF Reader,
By Blue Tyson "- Research Finished" - Published on Amazon.com
This review is from: New Weird, The (Paperback)
I thought this anthology would be interesting, and it doesn't disappoint.
There's an introduction by VanderMeer, J. To sum that up he says wants to provide a rough guide to the New Weird, acknowledging that it is quite possibly a past history thing. On the rest of the non-fiction, there is part of a forum discussion from a few years ago, wherein the existence or not of the topic is debated. Amusingly, Jonathan Strahan calls it a load of old cobblers, then over the page comes up with this very anthology title (and also sort of implies that the New Space Opera might be something similar, and goes on to produce a great anthology titled exactly that, too). A kiss of life Super Editor, perhaps, is he? There are some essays by others talking about the subject, and also some European editors, some from more Eastern Europe, and a German, talking about this sort of fiction in their countries and how it does commercially. The Czechs hung a fiction line of it that has done well, and not so good in dour Germany, it seems. On the fiction front, things go from the fabulous find of a story about Jack Half-A-Prayer from China Mieville's New Crobuzon, to a poor excerpt from a novel by Steph Swainston. She is one of the names invoked along with Mieville, Di Filippo, and Bishop (whose story is rather good, and I had read before), as being part of the early moment of this stuff, around Perdido Street Station time. However, the Swainston excerpt isn't from the book mentioned - perhaps that one is better, being as it appears the first in a trilogy, and higher rated and more widely held on librarything, too. However, her writing in this excerpt isn't within a bulls roar of any of the others mentioned. Extremely cheesy science fantasy that veers more towards the romance science fiction romance subgenre at time, it seems to me. It has that crossover dabbler not quite getting it feel, it seems. Excerpts are problematic enough in anthologies without sticking in dodgy examples. Moorcock's war story seems to be just a garden variety slightly nutty people at war tale, certainly not even remotely weird, particularly if you are thinking of mad scientists in Gran Bretan, or Warlords of the Air, or multiversal chasing grail hunting super nazis. The actual cover itself isn't particularly weird, either, being sort of virginal white, with a clockwork bug - dime a dozen on the internet, these days, those sort of things, it seems. Jeffrey Thomas has a pure SF story here, though, and I noticed a free novel released recently online - if it is anythinglike this, it will be worth checking out. Judge Dredd meets Blade Runner, or something like that. Most of this stuff is fantasy or horror, and often both. Alistair Rennie being the classic example here of gross, grotesque horror-fantasy. This story is apparently new to the collection, so well done. I'd definitely like to see more of this. The last fiction part includes a 'laboratory', wherein the editors ask some writers who aren't Weird enough, mostly, perhaps, to try New Weird. PDF sets it up for them, and then they take a crack at various parts of a related set of stories. Whether it was worth doing this rather than including some other good New Weird stories, I think I'd come down on the side of no, given the retrospective aim of this book. In a good move, they have included a list of 70 odd books that are New Weirdish, while noting at the start they are leaving out Alastair Reynolds and company 'space opera new weird' books. Cyberpunk is ok, presumably, given Thomas. Then they go and leave half a page blank on their book list. Why not put them in at the end rather than waste the space? At least given the wasted paper they could have said why - don't read it/not familiar with/don't like it/publisher said no, especially as they open the book with writers than have committed space opera in the pat. Chasm City, for example, is way weirder and more grotesque than the very tame Ligotti story that could easily have fallen out of a rift in time to 1920. So, overall this anthology manages to make it to good, but nothing past that, and does contain a couple of excellent and a few good stories. As a final note, the Tachyon publisher site has a 'part 8' of the Festival Lives laboratory experiment, also by PDF. New Weird : The Luck in the Head - M. John Harrison New Weird : Crossing into Cambodia - Michael Moorcock New Weird : In the Cities the Hills - Clive Barker New Weird : The Braining of Mother Lamprey - Simon D. Ings New Weird : The Neglected Garden - Kathe Koja New Weird : A Soft Voice Whispers Nothing - Thomas Ligotti New Weird : Jack - China Miéville New Weird : Immolation - Jeffrey Thomas New Weird : The Lizard of Ooze - Jay Lake New Weird : Watson's Boy - Brian Evenson New Weird : The Art of Dying - K. J. Bishop New Weird : At Reparata - Jeffrey Ford New Weird : Letters from Tainaron - Leena Krohn New Weird : The Ride of the Gabbleratchet - Steph Swainston New Weird : The Gutter Sees the Light That Never Shines - Alistair Rennie New Weird : Death in a Dirty Dhoti - Paul Di Filippo New Weird : Cornflowers Beside the Unuttered - Cat Rambo New Weird : All God's Chillun Got Wings - Sarah Monette New Weird : Locust-Mind - Daniel Abraham New Weird : Constable Chalch and the Ten Thousand Heroes - Felix Gilman New Weird : Golden Lads All Must - Hal Duncan New Weird : Forfend the Heavens' Rending - Conrad Williams Oh Mammy, how I chop ya, how I chop ya 3.5 out of 5 A glowing charge. 3 out of 5 Urban decay contest honeymoon definitely over. 4 out of 5 Potted old bag's distributed prediction power scratched. 4 out of 5 Finally off the fence about this flower chick. 3 out of 5 Cold medicine. 2.5 out of 5 Half-A-Prayer of ending. 4.5 out of 5 Union City clone shooter Blues. 4 out of 5 Fishy dead clown. 3.5 out of 5 I'm too keyed up. Rats. 3 out of 5 Stupid is the stripling who perambulates with swicidal swordswomen. 4 out of 5 Earworm: Moth In the City. 3 out of 5 BEMmy. 3 out of 5 Get me out of this worm-fest. 2 out of 5 A real balls-up he made there, right, Sister? 4.5 out of 5 Dogwhacked terror tour. 4 out of 5 Mad luftballons. 3 out of 5 Dogpack discussion. 3.5 out of 5 Buggy morality. 3 out of 5 Magazine adventures. 3.5 out of 5 Slim hipped Songboys. 3 out of 5 Blown up assistance. 3 out of 5 10 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars
Could have been a much tighter collection,
By Steven Warfield - Published on Amazon.com
This review is from: New Weird, The (Paperback)
A very uneven collection. There were several stories that really stood out which made me want to see more of the authors' work - the ones by Miéville, Swainston, Lake and Rennie in particular - but the rest were largely forgettable.
The forgettable ones usually tended to veer between being strange to the point of plotless (say, "Watson's Boy" by Evenson) or just plotless description ("The Art of Dying" by Bishop"). I'm also not entirely certain that the discussion of "What IS the 'New Weird'?" as a genre really added anything to the tome, as there was no clear cut definition nor concurrence as to if 'New Weird' can be classified, if it has past us by already, or if it is ongoing. A nudge in the direction to the archived discussion in the foreward would have sufficed vice reprinting it as an entire chapter. On the plus side, I now have more promising authors' short story collections to look for. 12 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars
Gormless,
By Kevin L. Nenstiel "omnivore" - Published on Amazon.com
This review is from: The New Weird (Kindle Edition)
In April 2003, M. John Harrison created or appropriated a new genre category called "The New Weird" and tried to kick-start discussion on the internet. Ann and Jeff VanderMeer bring that discussion into the real world where we generalists can join in. But if this book is anything to judge by, "The New Weird" is a make-work label designed to give C-list writers something to talk about, and to sell books to gullible japes like me.
Jeff VanderMeer, in his introduction, spews a lot of post-grad lit major gibberish to persuade us not only that this new category exists, but that it's already dead and he has the right to perform the post-mortem. He claims it's the rightful inheritor of sci-fi's New Wave and the innovative grotesque horror/fantasy of the 1980's. But he never says what New Weird is. And the main text of the book probably shows why. The editors start with what they call "Stimuli," a selection of stories that nourished the New Weird ethos. But for the most part I can't tell the difference between them and the Old Weird. These authors, including Michael Moorcock, Kathe Koja, and Clive Barker, appear to channel Lovecraft, Poe, and Shirley Jackson. This reads like the Old Weird's Greatest Hits. But these stories are masterful compared to the section labeled "Evidence." I beg, implore, and defy anyone to explain what makes these stories either New or Weird. Jeffrey Thomas' "Immolation" is bog-standard sci-fi. K.J. Bishop's "The Art of Dying" and Jeffrey Ford's "At Reparata" are fantasies. Apart from a playful attitude toward events, there's little innovative or Weird about these stories The tales by Brian Evenson, Steph Swainton, Leena Krohn, and Alistair Rennie are--not to generalize--crap. If New Weird means rejecting clear characters, plot, or momentum, then I need to dig out the stories I wrote in junior high, because I'll make a mint. The only remotely inventive story is China Mièville's "Jack." No wonder VanderMeer disparages Mièville in the intro: we can't have schlubs like me reading or caring about our proud subgenre, can we? The next "Symposium" section attempts to critically parse this subgenre. In addition to several windy, jargon-rich essays by authors from this book, it reproduces the early entries in Harrison's web discussion on what New Weird is and if it exists. Reading this bunch of half-baked cranks justifying their opacity, I am reminded why I dislike criticism as a whole and pop-culture criticism in particular. I couldn't even finish the "Symposium," much less the "Laboratory" section, in which the VanderMeers prompt writers to add a new round-robin story to a genre they've already declared dead. I found myself steadily losing the will to live. In Harrison's web discussion, Jonathan Strahan describes the New Weird moniker as "a load of old cobblers," and I couldn't agree more. Hundreds of pages into this tedious exercise, I knew I'd wasted precious reading time. The editors have been given a taxonomic category and felt the need to fill it, although the category has no parameters and the putative genre doesn't exist. Some individual stories are interesting, but the collection is gormless, without any clear unifying ethos. I'm sorry to say, there is no New Weird, and this would-be manifesto is a vulgar attempt to part you from your money. |
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