- Hardcover: 404 pages
- Publisher: AuthorHouse; 4th edition (4 Jun 2008)
- Language English
- ISBN-10: 1434387232
- ISBN-13: 978-1434387233
- Product Dimensions: 23.1 x 15.5 x 3.6 cm
- Average Customer Review: 3.7 out of 5 stars See all reviews (10 customer reviews)
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Murder in the Vatican is two books in one book: The Revolutionary Life of John Paul (the only existing biography of the 33-day Pope) and The CIA, Opus Dei and the 1978 Murders. Why two books in one book? Unless one understands the mystery of his life - something the Vatican prefers to keep secret - The Secret Life of John Paul - one will never understand the mystery of his unwitnessed death. This book is in its fourth edition. In that time, I have changed little of what I have said about this good man's life other than to expand my account in this new edition to include stories of his childhood and his young life as a seminarian and as a priest. Yet, the mystery of his death and the deaths of those around him has involved an investigative process that has taken me to Italy and elsewhere in the world many times and spanned many years. I knew much more five years ago, than I knew five years before that, and I knew much more two years ago, than I knew five years before that, and I know much more today, than I did then. Here for the first time is the proof. How John Paul, and those around him, fell victim to twentieth century capitalism as it was jointly embraced by the Vatican and the United States. BEWARE OF THE USED BOOK MARKET: 2003, 2005 and 2006 editions do not include the complete biography or the solution to the murders. Only this 404 page 2008 edition includes both compete books.
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10 of 10 people found the following review helpful
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Murder in the Vatican: The CIA and the Bolshevik Pontiff
This is the right book but I would strongly suggest getting the new edition (click on link above). The 2010 edition resolves aspects of the murders the author leaves open in this 2008 edition.
I happened to have been a young seminarian in the Vatican the night the Pope died. As we gathered in the cafeteria, having witnessed a vibrant driving fireball of a man the day before, the assumption was murder and our conversations focused on the two Opus Dei bishops `Murder in the Vatican' implicates in the crime. Both these bishops were made cardinals and promoted past 300 others who outranked them to two of the most powerful positions in the Church shortly after the death of John Paul I.
The author proves that Opus Dei was involved in a conspiracy with factions in the CIA and British Intelligence which carried out the murders of John Paul and a dozen of his closest friends in the fall of 1978. T. Francis Elliott (New York Times) is on the mark, "A monumental work of twentieth century capitalism as it was jointly embraced by the Vatican and the United States and those caught up in it. Top-shelf Vatican-CIA intrigue."
Yet, the legacy of this man is his life and not his death. Particularly enjoyable to me is the recounting of the author's conversations with John Paul when the latter was Bishop of Vittorio Veneto. In recording his many recollections of his struggles as an impoverished child, as a rebellious seminarian, and as an outspoken priest and bishop, Gregoire has preserved for the world an important part of history - something the present rulers in Rome would rather be forgotten. The reason why the Vatican has never commissioned a biography be written of the 33-day pope. The opening line of the `Preface' is clear. "For those of us who knew him, who remember him, I bring nothing new. But for those of us who have allowed the Church's misrepresentations of what he was all about, who have allowed Rome's falsehoods to distort his legacy, I bring a treasure trove of yesterday."
So, yes, I remember him. He was all that you say he was and much more. My hope for a more just Church and a better world died with him.
Toby Johnson, White Crane Journal, alludes to a secret given the author by John Paul, "In revealing the deep dark secret that must have haunted him all his life, Gregoire forces the transformation of Christianity."
Howard Greene (Times) probably said it best, "Like `The Davinci Code', `Murder in the Vatican' will infuriate the devout and other believers in the supernatural. But, unlike Brown, Gregoire has the proof!"
Avoid 2006 and earlier editions of this book, you will get only half the book.
This is the right book but I would strongly suggest getting the new edition (click on link above). The 2010 edition resolves aspects of the murders the author leaves open in this 2008 edition.
I happened to have been a young seminarian in the Vatican the night the Pope died. As we gathered in the cafeteria, having witnessed a vibrant driving fireball of a man the day before, the assumption was murder and our conversations focused on the two Opus Dei bishops `Murder in the Vatican' implicates in the crime. Both these bishops were made cardinals and promoted past 300 others who outranked them to two of the most powerful positions in the Church shortly after the death of John Paul I.
The author proves that Opus Dei was involved in a conspiracy with factions in the CIA and British Intelligence which carried out the murders of John Paul and a dozen of his closest friends in the fall of 1978. T. Francis Elliott (New York Times) is on the mark, "A monumental work of twentieth century capitalism as it was jointly embraced by the Vatican and the United States and those caught up in it. Top-shelf Vatican-CIA intrigue."
Yet, the legacy of this man is his life and not his death. Particularly enjoyable to me is the recounting of the author's conversations with John Paul when the latter was Bishop of Vittorio Veneto. In recording his many recollections of his struggles as an impoverished child, as a rebellious seminarian, and as an outspoken priest and bishop, Gregoire has preserved for the world an important part of history - something the present rulers in Rome would rather be forgotten. The reason why the Vatican has never commissioned a biography be written of the 33-day pope. The opening line of the `Preface' is clear. "For those of us who knew him, who remember him, I bring nothing new. But for those of us who have allowed the Church's misrepresentations of what he was all about, who have allowed Rome's falsehoods to distort his legacy, I bring a treasure trove of yesterday."
So, yes, I remember him. He was all that you say he was and much more. My hope for a more just Church and a better world died with him.
Toby Johnson, White Crane Journal, alludes to a secret given the author by John Paul, "In revealing the deep dark secret that must have haunted him all his life, Gregoire forces the transformation of Christianity."
Howard Greene (Times) probably said it best, "Like `The Davinci Code', `Murder in the Vatican' will infuriate the devout and other believers in the supernatural. But, unlike Brown, Gregoire has the proof!"
Avoid 2006 and earlier editions of this book, you will get only half the book.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
Format:Paperback
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This is a partial edition of 'Murder in the Vatican.' For the complete edition search Murder in the Vatican: The CIA and the Bolshevik Pontiff also on Kindle.
This is an outstanding book. Yet, the author is wrong that in the pope's ten years at Vittorio Veneto he was loved. For the most part people hated him. I know because I grew up in Vittorio Veneto under his auspices. They didn't have popularity polls in those days, but I doubt if in his early years he ever went much over 25%. Yet, in the end he did have the vote.
I recall coming home from school and telling my parents sex was no longer considered sinful and I was no longer required to mention it in confession. Instead I was required to tell the priest if I had hatred of any other kinds of people. They were enraged as they had brought me up thinking sex was shameful and dirty. They banned together with others and went up the road to the bishop's castle protesting his heresy to no avail.
There was the time he built the clinic designed to take severely handicapped children out of institutions and allow them to live with the general public. My parents were among the crowds protesting the building of the clinic. There were the times he ordered local hospitals to allow partners of known homosexuals to enter intensive care units. Most damaging of all to his popularity was his work for born-out-of-wedlock children so perfectly portrayed by the author. When he reserved the first few pews for these children who never before had been allowed to enter church, it dropped his popularity to near zero. He was such a force behind the worker's revolution which he waged on behalf of these same children who had reached adulthood, the rich and powerful tabbed him `Veneto's Lenin.'
I will never forget the American priest the author speaks of as he taught me my first words in English which enabled me to learn English at an early age. Very few people in Vittorio Veneto could speak English at the time and this is still true today. I was quite distraught to learn what happened to him. I was the boy who delivered the newspaper to Papa Luciani the author speaks of in his book.
This is a partial edition of 'Murder in the Vatican.' For the complete edition search Murder in the Vatican: The CIA and the Bolshevik Pontiff also on Kindle.
This is an outstanding book. Yet, the author is wrong that in the pope's ten years at Vittorio Veneto he was loved. For the most part people hated him. I know because I grew up in Vittorio Veneto under his auspices. They didn't have popularity polls in those days, but I doubt if in his early years he ever went much over 25%. Yet, in the end he did have the vote.
I recall coming home from school and telling my parents sex was no longer considered sinful and I was no longer required to mention it in confession. Instead I was required to tell the priest if I had hatred of any other kinds of people. They were enraged as they had brought me up thinking sex was shameful and dirty. They banned together with others and went up the road to the bishop's castle protesting his heresy to no avail.
There was the time he built the clinic designed to take severely handicapped children out of institutions and allow them to live with the general public. My parents were among the crowds protesting the building of the clinic. There were the times he ordered local hospitals to allow partners of known homosexuals to enter intensive care units. Most damaging of all to his popularity was his work for born-out-of-wedlock children so perfectly portrayed by the author. When he reserved the first few pews for these children who never before had been allowed to enter church, it dropped his popularity to near zero. He was such a force behind the worker's revolution which he waged on behalf of these same children who had reached adulthood, the rich and powerful tabbed him `Veneto's Lenin.'
I will never forget the American priest the author speaks of as he taught me my first words in English which enabled me to learn English at an early age. Very few people in Vittorio Veneto could speak English at the time and this is still true today. I was quite distraught to learn what happened to him. I was the boy who delivered the newspaper to Papa Luciani the author speaks of in his book.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
Format:Hardcover
Gregoire does a riveting job in proving it was John Paul's obsession to do away with poverty in the world that cost him his life. He didn't have to go to Africa or China to see it, as he was surrounded by it when he was growing up; the plight of two million bastards - born-out-of-wedlock children condemned by the Church - something which Gregoire brutally portrays - their frozen bodies being collected each morning by a cart:
"Each time their tiny frozen bodies would pass by in the cart, every priest, monk, nun and brainwashed parishioner thought it to be right. The only hint of compassion now and then, 'They are better off dead.' Everyone thought there was something holy about it. After all, it was written in their Holy Bible, these were the worst of children - BASTARDS. . . That is, everyone except Piccolo, the little boy Albino Luciani. He thought it was wrong. He didn't care whether or not it was written in a book. In fact, he knew it was wrong. And he knew it was wrong because his revolutionary socialist atheist anticlerical father had told him it was wrong."
It was most likely this experience that drove him for twenty years as a bishop to be a rampaging locomotive running about the Vatican, the courts and Parliament of Italy demanding basic human rights for out-of-wedlock children, women, homosexuals, the remarried and the poor; things that must have infuriated right wing elements inside and outside the Church. Particularly, when he made it the central theme of his acceptance speech as recorded in `Murder in the Vatican':
Associated Press, September 29, 1978, Vatican City, Just thirty-three days into his pontificate, Pope John Paul died last evening... Vibrant and on the job to the end, he was sixty-five... the only Pope in history whose death was unwitnessed... On hearing the news, Cardinal Benelli of Florence called for an autopsy... Born of a social revolutionary atheist father who had placed him in a seminary at the age of eleven with the commission to bring change to the Church... What would have been John Paul's papacy is perhaps best defined by the central message of his acceptance speech in the Sistine Chapel, August 27, 1978, "... We must rise up the courage within us and set aside the prejudices that have been built into us by our Christian forefathers and together we will muster the strength to lift those restraints that have been unfairly placed upon the everyday lives of so many innocent people by doctrine... for God-given human life is infinitely more precious than is man-made doctrine..."
"Each time their tiny frozen bodies would pass by in the cart, every priest, monk, nun and brainwashed parishioner thought it to be right. The only hint of compassion now and then, 'They are better off dead.' Everyone thought there was something holy about it. After all, it was written in their Holy Bible, these were the worst of children - BASTARDS. . . That is, everyone except Piccolo, the little boy Albino Luciani. He thought it was wrong. He didn't care whether or not it was written in a book. In fact, he knew it was wrong. And he knew it was wrong because his revolutionary socialist atheist anticlerical father had told him it was wrong."
It was most likely this experience that drove him for twenty years as a bishop to be a rampaging locomotive running about the Vatican, the courts and Parliament of Italy demanding basic human rights for out-of-wedlock children, women, homosexuals, the remarried and the poor; things that must have infuriated right wing elements inside and outside the Church. Particularly, when he made it the central theme of his acceptance speech as recorded in `Murder in the Vatican':
Associated Press, September 29, 1978, Vatican City, Just thirty-three days into his pontificate, Pope John Paul died last evening... Vibrant and on the job to the end, he was sixty-five... the only Pope in history whose death was unwitnessed... On hearing the news, Cardinal Benelli of Florence called for an autopsy... Born of a social revolutionary atheist father who had placed him in a seminary at the age of eleven with the commission to bring change to the Church... What would have been John Paul's papacy is perhaps best defined by the central message of his acceptance speech in the Sistine Chapel, August 27, 1978, "... We must rise up the courage within us and set aside the prejudices that have been built into us by our Christian forefathers and together we will muster the strength to lift those restraints that have been unfairly placed upon the everyday lives of so many innocent people by doctrine... for God-given human life is infinitely more precious than is man-made doctrine..."
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Squeal like stuck pigs
Like the Da Vinci Code. This book will rile up those who think men in Rome know something they don't know. Read more
Published 12 months ago by Ellen Maria Mario
Self-indulgent and unconvincing
Lucien Gregoire's "Murder in the Vatican" bears all the hallmarks of vanity publishing (which is what it is): overlong, repetitious, full of spelling mistakes, printing errors and... Read more
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Interesting, but . . .
I have an interest in the life of Albino Luciani (John Paul I) which began when I read David Yallop's book, In God's Name, a number of years ago. Read more
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Published on 31 May 2010 by Tristan Hamilton
Bollocks on stilts
I read David Yallop's "In God's Name" and thought I'd read a bit more about Albino Lucini.I tried this,and when I got to a paragraph fairly early in the book which said the Italian... Read more
Published on 29 April 2010 by PygmyTwylyte
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Murder in the Vatican: The CIA and the Bolshevik Pontiff
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Published on 1 Jan 2009 by Lucien Gregoire
Important Subject Matter but poorly written.
This is a very strange book. It's subject matter is important and one that I've been interested in since reading 'In God's Name' by David Yallop but it is so poorly constructed and... Read more
Published on 29 Dec 2008 by T. G. Braithwaite
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