Always remember to read the description because the pictures are very misleading. These cymbals are great. Sound good and were good for the price. They do not have the free filter china though. They show it, but it is not in the description or in the box. I would have paid $5 more elsewhere had I paid attention. I am very happy with the sound and quality of these cymbals though. They sound much better than ZBTs, ZHTs, and the HCS' to me.