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Mary Star of the Sea [CD + Bonus DVD] [Enhanced, Limited Edition]

Zwan Audio CD
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  • Audio CD (10 Feb 2003)
  • Number of Discs: 2
  • Format: Enhanced, Limited Edition
  • Label: Reprise
  • ASIN: B00007KJQ7
  • Average Customer Review: 4.1 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (13 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 48,049 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

Disc: 1
1. Lyric
2. Settle Down
3. Declarations of Faith
4. Honestly
5. El Sol
6. Of a Broken Heart
7. Ride a Black Swan
8. Heartsong
9. Endless Summer
10. Baby Let's Rock!
See all 14 tracks on this disc
Disc: 2
1. My Life and Times
2. Rivers We Can't Cross
3. Mary Star of the Sea
4. Love Lies In Ruin
5. For Your Love
6. Down, Down, Down
7. A New Poetry
8. W.P.
9. Jesus, I
10. God's Gonna Set This World On Fire
See all 15 tracks on this disc

Product Description


On initial hearing, Mary Star of the Sea by Zwan--Billy Corgan's first musical project after the Smashing Pumpkins--sounds light and breezy. His new bandmates-- Slint/Tortoise guitarist Dave Pajo, Skunk guitarist Matt Sweeney, A Perfect Circle bassist Paz Lenchantin and fellow Pumpkin Jimmy Chamberlain on drums--have given Corgan a fresh perspective and his time as touring guitarist for New Order seems to have heightened his love for mid-80s British indie. There are moments of straightforward jangle pop herein, while "Settle Down" reflects the moody angular style adopted by the likes of Interpol. He also appears to have fallen in love. "Honestly" has Corgan sighing "There is no place I could be without you…I feel love" like a newly reborn soppy fool. "Declarations of Faith" has him declaring "maybe we were born to love" to a gooey melody that recalls American Anglophile indie bands like Papas Fritas.

It's all a million musical and spiritual miles away from the messy pretension that led to the end of the Pumpkins. As the album progresses, though, Zwan merge this new perspective with the FM radio suss that characterised the best of the Pumpkins to produce a record that takes in 70s balladry and a 14 minute Spiritualized tribute (the title track) without feeling forced. There is even a nod to Britpop ("Baby Let's Rock!" is Suede pretending to be Menswear). It'll all end in tears, of course, but on this record Corgan's having the time of his life. --Ian Watson

Product Description

ZWAN Mary Star Of The Sea (2003 US limited edition 29-track 2-disc set comprised of 14-track CD album plus bonus For Your Love DVD featuring 40 minutes of live in-studio & exclusive interview footage)

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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Its Corgan, but not as we know it... 14 May 2003
Format:Audio CD
So, Zwan. The hype surrounding Billy Corgan's post-Pumpkins extravaganza has been nothing short of immense. Fans of Corgan are well known for their dedication, so would Zwan be able to match with the Pumpkins?
To be honest, to put a comparison between the two would do neither justice. Of course, "Mary Star Of The Sea" features Billy Corgan's classic songwriting style, but it is all together a different beast to the Smashing Pumpkins. And what a beast it is! While taking a different approach to the Pumpkins sonically, Zwan have produced an extraordinary debut here.
The first single "Honestly" is a good plave to start to get an idea of what Zwan sound like; gentle, melodic guitars topped with Corgan's trademark voice. The general feel of the album is a lot less heavy than anything that the Pumpkins did, possibly signs of Corgan's maturity as a songwriter. Tracks like "Endless Summer" or the epic "Mary Star Of The Sea" ooze the kind of songwriting that most people would die for. The latter is a 15 minute monster of a song, a true musical journey.
While I could analyze each song individually, I think that listening to Zwan would do them far more justice than my review ever could. If you are a fan of rock music, or just music with feeling, you can't go far wrong with "Mary Star Of The Sea". In this case, do believe the hype!
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8 of 9 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars smashing! pumpkins? 3 Feb 2003
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
to a lot of people, Zwan represents Smashing Pumpkins mk II - I'll admit it's the main reason I bought this CD. Billy's nasal vocals and Jimmy's amazing drumming underpin the songs, but there's altogether a much more upbeat, less doomy feel to the project, and even in places ironic nods to retro reference points. Members of Slint (guitar) and A Perfect Circle (bass) mean that Zwan have a distinctly different sound to the Pumpkins, once which has moved with the times. A slightly over-produced album which doesn't always live up to the promise of earlier live bootlegs I'd heard, but is definitely worth owning - all of the songs are good and a couple are real gems.
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5.0 out of 5 stars A must get Cd 4 Feb 2003
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Format:Audio CD
Zwan is a 5 piece band based in Chicago. The band was formed shortly after the final Smashing Pumpkins shows in Chicago. Billy Corgan (guitar/vocals) and Jimmy Chamberlin (drums) moved on to expand their horizon. Matt Sweeney (guitar/vocals) is formerly of an indie band, Chavez. David Pajo (guitar) is formerly of an indie band, Slint. Paz Lenchantin (bass/vocals) came to Zwan from A Perfect Circle.
Billy, Matt and Paz takes turns with the lead/backgrond vocals duty even if Billy wrote most of the songs. The album has a very strong texture to the music. The guitars are pretty heavy. Paz's bass playing style is strong and heavy. Jimmy's drumming is heavy. The band has been together for about a year and a half. It must have been very difficult for them to choose the songs for this album. Their rock anthem, "Glorious" isn't included on the album. It seems like the whole band found their personal Jesus and it's probably the most "religious" album I've ever heard. This album would do any true Smashing Pumpkins fans proud by their first spin on the CD. Give this album at least 2 days to get a good listen and you'll fall in love with it, your personal Jesus forever.
This album would definately do James Iha and D'arcy (formerly of The Smashing Pumpkins) proud. Melissa auf der Maur (formerly of Tinker, Hole and The Smashing Pumpkins) would be very pleased with this album. The CD itself is almost 66 minutes long.
Essential tracks on this album are: "Honestly", "Lyric", "Settle Down", "Declarations Of Faith", "Ride A Black Swan", "Baby Let's Rock", and "Jesus, I/Mary Star Of The Sea".
My copy of this album comes with a bonus limited edition DVD. The DVD includes some tracks which doesn't appear on the CD. It contains interviews, live footage and studio footage.
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6 of 8 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Smashing who? 11 Feb 2003
Format:Audio CD
When your name is Billy Corgan, you don't make average records.
People tend to talk to you a lot about an album called Siamese something-or-other, when youre going to do another version, et-cetera, repeat ad infinitum. Must get a bit tiring, and when you consider that most of your songs were about topping yourself, you had to worry about the kind of effect this kind of chat was going to have to have on you.
You needn't have worried, however, because you've just made your best album since the one you spent 20 hours a day for about a decade recording.
Zwan then... pretend you never heard the Smashing Pumpkins, because to compare the two would be cruelly unfair. Either way, you put in your shiny new CD and press play, waiting for the first bone crunching riff-o'doom...
...Whats this? The shiny happy lick that opens the stunning feel-good opener 'Lyric'? Since when did Corgan play those? No matter you think, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness had an off-the-wall introduction didn't it?
But this is how the album ploughs on. Ploughs? I mean glides, waltzes, swings, dances and smiles its way onward, barely stopping to frown before the next summery peice of guitar intercourse raises the corners of your mouth again.
Of course this isn't Corgans show. Oh no. Do you remember 'Slint'? That album 'Spiderland'? That song 'Washer'? Never mind... My point is that David Pajo from that lot is in Zwan too. Possibly the best musician in the band, you can see his influence on quite a few tracks, especially the meandering epic 'Jesus I / Mary Star Of The Sea''. Matt Sweeney from Chavez is in there too, and so is Paz Lenchantin, although the 'A Perfect Circle' influence is definitely limited. Maybe Corgan took her share of the say.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Smashing Pisces Iscariot-type album
If you like Smashing Pumpkins, the early stuff, i.e. before they sacked their drummer this is an album for you. Read more
Published on 23 Mar 2010 by Mr. P. Evans
2.0 out of 5 stars Missing Ingredients
Always difficult to follow up carrier highs Billy Corgan decided to start a new group ditching `Smashing Pumpkins' for a new band, retaining Jimmy Chamberlin. Read more
Published on 12 Nov 2008 by Fletch-a-sketch
5.0 out of 5 stars Billy Corgan Rocks
As soon as I heard that Billy Corgan of the smashing pumpkins was in a new band I instantly pre-ordered this album. Read more
Published on 24 Mar 2003 by J. Pappenheim
5.0 out of 5 stars Welcome back, the REAL Billy Corgan!
I am a great fan of Smashing Pumpkins and in my opinion 'Siamese Dream' is the perhaps the greatest rock album ever recorded. Read more
Published on 3 Mar 2003
1.0 out of 5 stars Zwan Anticlimax
Gone are the subtle & lilting melodies
Gone are the heartfelt & inventive lyrics
Gone are the carefully crafted songs that build from silent whispers to crashing... Read more
Published on 14 Feb 2003
5.0 out of 5 stars A must get Cd
Zwan is a 5 piece band based in Chicago. The band was formed shortly after the final Smashing Pumpkins shows in Chicago. Read more
Published on 4 Feb 2003
4.0 out of 5 stars Good album, poor DVD
An impressive beginning which promises much. Definitely influenced by Billy Corgan's Smashing Pumpkins background, but then it would be difficult for it not to be. Read more
Published on 1 Feb 2003
4.0 out of 5 stars Honesty, not hype.
Only four stars??? But.... it's Billy Corgan!!? And he's my God! I'm not going to go into great poetic detail on this.Leave that to the music papers and professional reviewers. Read more
Published on 30 Jan 2003 by Jon B
5.0 out of 5 stars THE NEW PUMPKINS
At first glance mary star of the sea does sound very much like the smashing pumpkins work. This is due obviously to the fact that they are written by Billy Corgan. Read more
Published on 30 Jan 2003 by "jimothyg"
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