Sim City has the following restrictions (features) that have all been stated by Maxis employees:
You must be connected to the internet 100% of the time you are playing. ...... You must connect to Origin to load or save your city (see next item). ...... Games are saved to the cloud (EA Servers). ...... If you're net connection goes down for more than a couple of minutes then all gameplay since last save is lost. ...... The installed game is only half the software, the rest is on EA's Serves so requires a fast, reliable internet connection to transfer data. ...... Other players Cities will influence yours even in 'single player' mode. ...... Saved games once loaded must be saved so you can't change your mind and go back and reload the city. ...... If the game flops and servers are switched off (usually within a year) it will become unplayable.
No god mode terraforming. (This includes how much resources are available and where they are). No modding allowed at launch (if at all due to online requirements/cloud computing). No building density zoning. Buildings may spam along a single road. Dumbed down micro-management. Limited population (Max 100,000 Sims per city) The city tile size is only equivalent to a medium city in SC4, and that is the only size available. You only get European building sets if you buy the game as a digital download direct from origin.
As I said all these items have all been confirmed/stated by EA/Maxis staff in various interviews so are not guess work...
Considering CitiesXL went down the 'shared online planet' root and it resulted in Monte Cristo Games going bust it seem madness!
I was pretty excited when this game was announced but looking through the above list has put me right off. Origin is a hateful system and having to have a permanent connection is unacceptable even if it wouldnt effect me that much. Also annoying that you have to buy the digital deluxe edition for the European cities, this may not be so bad but they want £65 for it!!! And no doubt they will spend the next few years releasing loads of DLC that they've held back from the main game so they can generate extra revenue.
Thanks to the OP for the heads up that list leaves me distinctly unimpressed and have decided to cancel my order it's a shame but I have principles where as I am happy to have steam and use it and pay for my games on it I will not be using Origin as it is in my view a draconian method of control over gamers by EA and has no respect for the gamer themselves even more so if they are legitimate owners. And a 200k limit WTF! I mean come on at least in SC4 the population could go into the millions that's appalling and it's not simulating a city it's simulating a medium city! I hate online games that are controlled by the company and they dictate what you can do it this instance EA being a bunch of control freaks I also would hate if other people ie complete strangers started to exert bad stuff over my city as well. There are whole host of things wrong with this game and it stinks of the out of date cash cow milking machine for DLC which EA is known. Do not touch this crap people it's an insult to Sim City Fans everywhere!
Well, just as i was about to preorder, I read these comments. Thanks guys, the game description didnt specify its online restrictions so you saved me a headache. I live in the countryside (yokel, yes i know) and inet connection is problematic and slow speed so its no good for me. My friend lives in a flat, with a shared connection for the block, so its hopeless for gaming so its no good for him.
This company is needlessly limiting this product to such an extent that they are losing sales before its even launched.
It's worse than we feared... EA have revealed that the game that you install is only half the software the rest uns on their servers, so you have to be connected 100% of the time you are playing, and there is no way a mod/crack/fix can get round that!
So unless you have a 100% reliable, fast internet connection, and are prepared for the game to be unplayable if it goes down then avoid.
Also, if this flops, as I suspect it will, EA will switch off the servers within a year rendering the game unplayable...
This info is really helpful, as their website avoids mentioning the level at how reliant this game is to being online and the retrictions this creates.
I pre-ordered this, as I was sooooooooo looking forward to it, as it looks really good and different from the older sim city's, but punishing honest paying custmers this way is not on and now will cancel my order.
I was looking forward to this game, but after reading the HAVE TO HAVE INTERNET part of it.. Not anymore... Confirmed that it is true, this ruins the game! Too many times I've had internet issues and had games go inop due to steam being locked out or something daft like that. What if they decide to can the server? Game = GONE..
I like the idea of owning the game and being able to play it without the internet in single player, if I wanted to play online only I'd go play World of Warcraft or something!
I'm cancelling my order. What is wrong with PC gaming these days? No wonder it's going downhill. I miss the old times of simply installing a game which then required no downloading and off you went for hours of fun.
It's a shame Maxis have to be tied to such a horrific company that is EA.
If you are scared of the multiplayer aspects in the single player mode, well let's not forget Sim City actually has a Sandbox mode as well. http://www.simcity.com/en_US/blog/article/simcity-sandbox-mode
It's not about being 'scared' of multiplayer, it is about paying full whack for a game, you cant play when the internet connection is not available and if you loose your connection, you loose all your time spent building, as well as not being able to save it, then change your mind and re-load it from an ealier point. It suppresses the flexibility you have when you buy and therefore should own the game to be able to play at your own will.
remind you of the flop called Spore - i was really excited about that and didnt end up buying it either. I've enjoyed playing the sims3, but havent played or bought any expansion packs since generations as they are to expensive for what they are. Sim City will always be remembered as a Classic i used to play it for ages back in the day when it came pre-loaded with Gotham City! Was going to buy this, but cant be bothered now. Far Cry 3 and Dishonored are still on the list though - just gotta finish Skyrim......only 200 hours in.
PC gaming is not going down hill. Just from publishers like EA and Activision it is. There are plenty of awesome games that have come out recently or are coming out soon by decent publishers or indies that are worth every penny.
Hmm thats not (opening post either) fully accurate though. A few things aren't the case anymore and a few are a bit different now. Not saying everything is A O K but Sim City (5) also has new cool things and features that the previous didn't have so just saying it is all negative isn't fair either. The online part also brings some nice things. Not sure if I'll preorder but I'll prob buy the game as some point.
Spore concept was pretty exciting but the gameplay was flawed and it was tedious. I bought it! Civilization 5 was worse though! Took forever to download and then crashed every time I tried to play it. Nowadays I am looking hard before buying. Simcity is no longer on my list!
...... You must connect to Origin to load or save your city (see next item). ...... Games are saved to the cloud (EA Servers). - They will be stored locally also, and synchronised to the cloud with a connection. Chances are when your net goes down you will loose access to features (Global Stock market probably) ...... If you're net connection goes down for more than a couple of minutes then all gameplay since last save is lost. - See above. ...... The installed game is only half the software, the rest is on EA's Serves so requires a fast, reliable internet connection to transfer data. - Most games are like this now-a-days, so no big deal... Your internet connection is that bad? ...... Other players Cities will influence yours even in 'single player' mode. - This is called the 'Stock Market' and is more realistic. There is also a Sandbox mode with no influence. ...... Saved games once loaded must be saved so you can't change your mind and go back and reload the city. - You do this anyway? o.O ...... If the game flops and servers are switched off (usually within a year) it will become unplayable. - It wont be a flop, there is a huge fanbase. If servers are switched off, EA is just giving free roam to the hackers...
Mountains out of molehills... I'm not saying I agree with them all, but its the way the gaming market is going (Its better this way than Free-2-Play or Pay-2-Win) and unless everyone is going to not buy ANY EA game (NFS, Fifa, The Sims, etc,etc) nothing will be done about it becuase thats the way EA rolls... Ubisoft is the same... Anno 2070 has the same online requirements and when you lose connection (which happens often because Ubisoft severs suck) you only lose access to certain features of the game, but is not game breaking.
Also: Modding is often disabled at the beginning of a game's life cycle, I think it was 2 years before people began modding SC4?
I'm really looking forward to it... If I dont like it, I'll pretend I spent my £40 on Sim City 4 which I only really paid £10 for... (and then £3 on Steam over summer...)