The socks came in good time and so far have not got any holes in them through use. I have, shall we say, larger calves maybe than normal and found that, after the first wash, the elastic had gone and the socks fell down around my ankles. I bought these socks because I wear cowboy style boots and wanted them for winter. They fell down around the ankles when wearing my boots they bundled around my feet and I had to take off the boots to pull them back up. Thank goodness I wasn't doing a lot of walking otherwise it would have been a very uncomfortable experience and I just had to keep pulling them up every so often. Maybe I need a pair of my grandads sock suspenders? That said I think if you are of average build you shouldn't go far wrong with these socks. They are warm and, so far, have been durable.