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Ludwig Thuille: Piano Quintets [CD]

Vogler Qt , Ludwig Thuille , Oliver Triendl Audio CD
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  • Composer: Ludwig Thuille
  • Audio CD (2 Jan 2007)
  • SPARS Code: DDD
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: CD
  • Label: Cpo
  • ASIN: B000KC83FC
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (1 customer review)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 417,447 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
Although I was already familiar with Thuille's name, this disc is the first opportunity I've had to hear his music and it has proved to be a very pleasant discovery. Of the two quintets recorded here, only one is a product of his maturity (the E major, Op.20), the earlier work hailing from his student years.

If the "first" piano quintet is structurally and harmonically more conservative than its successor, those elements are balanced by a strong melodic gift and a stirring expressive ardour. According to the liner notes, Thuille's teacher, the highly respected pedagogue and composer Josef Rheinberger, found the opening `allegro maestoso' to be "too stormy and wild"; if you are familiar with Rheinberger's own considerable corpus of chamber music, which combines formidable technique with urbane charm and Romantic sentiment, you might not be surprised at the professor's reaction to this impassioned movement but I don't think there is anything in Thuille's turbulent writing that would cause a modern listener to baulk at what they are hearing. It is a mood that returns in the final movement, which follows a short but expressive `larghetto' (there is no scherzo). The composer's lack of experience is perhaps reflected in the modest dimensions of this quintet and in some of the conventional piano rhetoric but it is still a very enjoyable work.

The E major quintet is conceived on a far grander scale and Thuille worked at it for several years, beginning composition late in 1897 and finally completing it in 1901. It is more polished work, I think, and one that Rheinberger might have found more satisfying expressively even if he might still have frowned at some of Thuille's harmonic wanderings.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Captivating Discovery! 11 Mar 2008
By Enrique Sanchez - Published on Amazon.com
I caught this on XM Radio this afternoon and could not leave my car until the entire piece had been played. Why haven't we heard of this ultra-romantic composer. The second movement alone has to rank among the most beautiful pieces ever written. There is such power, beauty and harmonic genius in this piece! It has been a long time since I've discovered a new piece that has captivated me as this one. I would recommend it to anyone who loves Brahms's piano quartets. You will surprised and delighted!
5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Boy, a 1* rating for this excellently recorded 'rare' chamber music? 15 Jun 2009
By Giradman - Published on Amazon.com
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I've owned several Thuille discs, including the piano quintets & the symphony/piano concerto; however, I cannot believe a 1* rating for this recording, esp. from a presumed professional musician who likely did not even listen to the disc (my guess just from perusing that review). Thus, I must rate this recording highly just to provide a more representative overall evaluation.

When I listen to classical musical recordings to provide an opinion (and I'm not a musical professional), I like to judge the music on the composer's skills (of course, some are better than others), the quality of the performance, and the sound reproduction. Thuille was (at least initially) a friend of Richard Strauss, who admired his composing skills; he writes in a late Romantic style, more Brahmsian that in the mode of the eastern Europeans; this music is dynamic and contains some lovely melodies, esp. in the slow movements. Triendl (on piano) & the Vogier Quartett perform with conviction and modulate this music wonderfully. Finally, CPO is one of my favorite labels and their skills at recording music are beyond question. All put together, I would give this performance and disc at least a 4* rating (upped to 5* as mentioned above) - the quality of the music writing may be a notch below the 'greats' of the late 19th century, but some might even dispute that statement. This is a disc at least worth sampling, then read a little about the composer, and finally make a decision.
6 of 7 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Not so popular but very competent 23 July 2008
By Keon Garraway - Published on Amazon.com
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I bought these piano quintets from the initial positive review of them by Enriquez. I would say that I am and still am pleasantly surprised at these enjoyable gems composed by Thuille. Thuille has a Brahmsian spirit in reference to these works and it manifests itself in his total competence of the form. He carefully crafts his themes and developments. There are no superfluous notes. Each movement logically follows its predecessor. What is shocking is that these works are not standing alongside the Piano Quintets of Brahms, Dvorak, Schubert and Schumann, because they are worthy.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Viva Thuille! 29 Dec 2009
By Lev Raphael - Published on Amazon.com
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I'm a fan of late 19th century/early twentieth chamber music but had never heard these pieces before and never even heard of Thuille until his name cropped up in some book I was reading about Vienna in this period. Curious, I sampled the quintets and was blown away--I had to order them instantly. The music has that quality of ineffable rightness of music that you seem to have always known, unconsciously perhaps, or in your dreams. The quintets are passionate, bold, melodic, sweeping, and quite simply gorgeous. I listen to them over and over when I play the CD and they conjure images of faces in fin-de-siècle Vienna and a world that has utterly disappeared. I wish I had discovered Thuille earlier, wish that WQXR in New York (which I grew up with) or WKAR in East Lansing (which I listen to now) had played him.
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1.0 out of 5 stars Thuille? Better Dohnanyi or Dvorak. 1 May 2009
By Alice K. Chan - Published on Amazon.com
People who enjoy listening to the Thuille piano quintets have probably never had to learn and rehearse them. This music is "cute" to listen to once or twice, but extremely trite and boring to learn. I've been a performing pianist for 50 years, and I can't bear to play these pieces. They are just difficult enough that they do require some practicing, and not interesting enough to make the practice and rehearsals enjoyable. All of the chamber music groups that I've performed with have the same opinion. Sorry. Go for Dohnanyi or Dvorak if what you want is big, romantic, and interesting chamber music that includes piano.
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