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Limeys [Illustrated] [Hardcover]

David I. Harvie
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  • Hardcover: 320 pages
  • Publisher: Sutton Publishing Ltd; illustrated edition edition (20 Jun 2002)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 0750927720
  • ISBN-13: 978-0750927727
  • Product Dimensions: 22.4 x 14.4 x 3.2 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 1,352,699 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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In 1740, Commander George Anson left Portsmouth with seven ships and nearly 2000 men. Three years later less than 600 returned. Only four were killed by the enemy - the rest not being killed by war, weather or misnavigation, but by scurvy. This work is the history of Dr James Lind's efforts to find a cure for this dreaded disease in the face of prejudice and political and establishment antipathy. In the three centuries prior to 1800, it has been estimated that scurvy killed at least two milliom sailors. It was characterized by rotting gums, foetid breath, swelling limbs, malaise and haemorraghing. Desperate men took any cure, including common purging or cupping, urine mouthwashes, ingestion of sulphuric acid, spruce beer or sauerkraut, even burial up to the neck in sand. Most died. In 1747, Lind, a Scottish surgeon who sailed with the Royal Navy, became the first to prove the efficacy of citrus juice in combating the disease. Yet he was unable to penetrate the high-minded disregard of those in authority, or to persuade them to enforce the universal application of fruit. Thousands needlessly died and it was 1795 before the findings were accepted. By this time, James Lind had been dead for a year. Today Lime Juice Cordial from Cadbury-Schweppes is not only enjoyed by ailing sailors, but also by millions worldwide as the world's first ever soft drink.

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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
Two Million 26 Oct 2002
By taking a rest HALL OF FAME
Format:Hardcover
That is the estimated number of men aboard ship that died during the 300 years proceeding the year 1800. Three hundred years is a long time, but the rate of death is comparable to the rate The United States lost soldiers each year during the Vietnam War. The deaths of 6,600+ men per year for three centuries are a staggering number. David I. Harvie explores the history of the preventable disease that killed so many in his book, "Limeys", a work that will probably be enjoyed by a great many people. The book is part history, part politics, part science, and a great deal of preventable tragedy.

The sickness known as scurvy was responsible for up to 75 percent of deaths on lengthy sea voyages. More sailors died from disease than in combat with an enemy, weather, or bad navigation. As early as 1747 Dr. James Lind conducted testing that anticipated methodologies hundreds of years ahead of their time that demonstrated steps to overcoming the problem, even though the actual Vitamin C that was the key was not identified until 1932. It was in this year that the hexuronic acid and Vitamin C were identified as one and the same, and this critical element was finally renamed ascorbic acid.

The human body is fantastically complex. Unfortunately this same amazing machine does not produce Vitamin C unlike many other animals. This inability has been responsible for millions of deaths, and remains a killer to the present day. Large population transfers in the form of refugees generally suffer horrendous numbers of dead. Lack of Vitamin C is not the sole cause, but it remains as deadly as it has ever been, while at the same time remaining so easy to prevent.

I think most people have heard of scurvy and also have a variety of ideas about who was responsible for finding the key to a cure. What may be less familiar are the centuries that it took to adopt the cure once it was known, and the intentional choices repeatedly made to not provide the food to protect the men who manned these ships. This book is filled with charlatans who peddled worthless cures, which were at times even deadly, and made a fortune selling them. They were able to do so as those in the military and government often stood to gain from quack products, as opposed to providing fruit that would ensure the safety of their men. This history is easily among the worst examples of those in positions of power placing next to no value on human life.

This is a fascinating story, well thought out and shared, and should be of interest to anyone who is inquisitive.

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dread disease 11 Oct 2009
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Given the current obsession with food quality and nutrition, this timely book addresses the problem of vitamin deficiency and the quest for a cure for scurvy over the recent past. Long sea voyages by early explorers created many problems for the crews, not least of which was the debilitating effects of scurvy. Frequently fatal, symptoms included rotting of teeth, swelling of limbs and loss of blood. The story of the solution to the problem was suspected for many years as the lack of fresh fruit and vegetables, but why did it take so long to finally solve the affliction? The story is well told by Harvie, and of course is intimately linked to the development of new ways of preserving food for those long sea voyages. One outcome was the development of lime juice, hence the title of the book. But the problem recurred at the turn of the 20th century in expeditions to the arctic and antarctic, and it is thought that scurvy affected Captain Scott in his final fatal trip. It was not until the 1920's that the active ingredient, vitamin C, was isolated that the problem was finally solved. Ths story deserves retelling, and Harvie makes a good contribution to popularising the account. When will we see similar accounts of the conquest of rickets (vitamn D deficiency) and beri-beri (vitamin B deficiency)?
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13 of 14 people found the following review helpful
Two Million 21 Aug 2002
By taking a rest - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Hardcover
That is the estimated number of men aboard ship that died during the 300 years proceeding the year 1800. Three hundred years is a long time, but the rate of death is comparable to the rate The United States lost soldiers each year during the Vietnam War. The deaths of 6,600+ men per year for three centuries are a staggering number. David I. Harvie explores the history of the preventable disease that killed so many in his book, "Limeys", a work that will probably be enjoyed by a great many people. The book is part history, part politics, part science, and a great deal of preventable tragedy.

The sickness known as scurvy was responsible for up to 75 percent of deaths on lengthy sea voyages. More sailors died from disease than in combat with an enemy, weather, or bad navigation. As early as 1747 Dr. James Lind conducted testing that anticipated methodologies hundreds of years ahead of their time that demonstrated steps to overcoming the problem, even though the actual Vitamin C that was the key was not identified until 1932. It was in this year that the hexuronic acid and Vitamin C were identified as one and the same, and this critical element was finally renamed ascorbic acid.

The human body is fantastically complex. Unfortunately this same amazing machine does not produce Vitamin C unlike many other animals. This inability has been responsible for millions of deaths, and remains a killer to the present day. Large population transfers in the form of refugees generally suffer horrendous numbers of dead. Lack of Vitamin C is not the sole cause, but it remains as deadly as it has ever been, while at the same time remaining so easy to prevent.

I think most people have heard of scurvy and also have a variety of ideas about who was responsible for finding the key to a cure. What may be less familiar are the centuries that it took to adopt the cure once it was known, and the intentional choices repeatedly made to not provide the food to protect the men who manned these ships. This book is filled with charlatans who peddled worthless cures, which were at times even deadly, and made a fortune selling them. They were able to do so as those in the military and government often stood to gain from quack products, as opposed to providing fruit that would ensure the safety of their men. This history is easily among the worst examples of those in positions of power placing next to no value on human life.

This is a fascinating story, well thought out and shared, and should be of interest to anyone who is inquisitive.

5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
A story of science and obstinance 22 Mar 2003
By Colin Povey - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Hardcover
David Harvie has written a fascinating book on the history of the dreaded disease scurvy. Only two mammals are vulnerable to scurvy, humans and guinea pigs, because these two creatures cannot produce their own Vitamin C or ascorbic acid. Throughout history, millions of people, especially sailors and soldiers, died horrible deaths by scurvy.

Dr. James Lind, who in 1747 conducted what is considered the worlds first clinical trial, established that oranges and lemons cure scurvy. Yet, because of the lack of understanding by people and Lind's inability to push and publicize his discovery enough, sailors, particularly those in the Royal Navy making extended ocean trips, continued to die by the thousands until the early-1790's, when the Admiralty decreed that lemons and their juice be issued to every ship. By 1795, scurvy in the Royal Navy was eliminated, except in cases where supplies of lemon juice ran out.

The most amazing part of the story still lay ahead, because scurvy returned in force during the 1800's, and quack cures were still in use until the 1900's! I leave it up to you to read the book to learn why this happened.

The book even mentions Dr. Linus Pauling's work with Vitamin C in the late 1900's.

All in all, an excellent read. I would give it 4.5 stars if that were possible, because the writing slows down a little in spots. All writers of science history should study the excellent writing of Dava Sobel, the author of Longitude, the superb history of John Harrison and his clocks.

3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
Battling the Anecdote 22 Jan 2004
By Donald B. Siano - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Hardcover
The blurb is that Dr. James Lind discovered the cure and prevention of scurvy in 1747 by conducting the first controlled clinical trial in the annals of medicine. In spite of his heroic efforts, It took about 50 years for this to finally sink into the medical bureaucracy of the British navy, when the scourge was finally vanquished.

Well, the truth is a little more complex than that, and contains some pertinent lessons for our own time. The trial involved only 12 men divided into 6 groups, two of whom got two oranges and a lemon while the others got various other remedies of current interest, including dilute sulfuric acid. The fruit receivers got better, and the others did not. This was the only real trial during the several centuries of extended sea voyages, and was not enough evidence to overcome the objections of amateur observers, anecdotal reports, quacks with their own pixie dust to sell, and the opinions of the committees of the connected. Truth be told, the modest Scot did not really push the method for study hard enough, and complicated his message with speculation and caveats. He was unable to harness the commercial motives of the right people to finally triumph in his own lifetime. Even as late as our own Civil War, and in the concentration camps of the Boer War, tens of thousands continued to perish of scurvy.

Interestingly, one of the reasons for the failure, traced by the author, is the confusion of the terminology of the day, when "lemon" and "lime" were terms used inconsistently and interchangeably, while their anti-scorbutic powers differed significantly. One can easily sneer at the ignorance of the those times, but be startled to realize that the same sort of problem exists today in the multi-billion dollar controversy over asbestos, in which two sorts of minerals, comprising six distinct minerals with distinct chemical structures are all lumped together under the same term: asbestos. Journalists and dwellers in the bowels of the EPA and OSHA are as indifferent to the distinction and the evidence for a great difference in the dangers inherent in each of them, as any committee of the Admiralty of Lind's day.

As far as the inadequacy of Lind's clinical trial, these problems of methodology have hardly gone away. Spend a few hours researching the clinical data on the important problem of second hand cigarette smoke, and tremble before the power of the mass media and the disregard of the uplifters for real scientific data.

Harvey has chronicled the complexities of the discovery well, and his tale serves as a cautionary lesson for those interested in how the truth may finally come to prevail, even in our own time of a plethora of shoddy science, bureaucratic safety committees, and dishonest journalism.

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