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Lee Konitz, with Warne Marsh, a 1955 date coupling two key figures in cool era saxophone playing, is a great window on the Lennie Tristano school of improvisation. The melodies are all cushioned by blurred tones and bending shapes and Marsh and Konitz's unison playing is jointly silken. They amaze with their very un-Basie-like reading of "Topsy" and their equally un-Bird-like reading of "Donna Lee", typically a vehicle for pyrotechnics. This stuff was assailed by some in the 1950s and 1960s for its seemingly cerebral abstractions and avoidance of emotional intensity. It still sounds "cool" by comparison to the "hot" sounds of bebop, but Konitz, on alto, and Marsh, on tenor, exercise a kind of calmed creativity that seems to avoid the emotion-intellect question altogether. The result is a low-key but by no means low-intensity display of excellence. --Andrew Bartlett

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31 of 31 people found the following review helpful
A classic from Atlantic's vaults 24 July 2001
By N. Dorward - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
Looking back, it's a little hard to grasp why the music of the Tristano school was considered "difficult" or "unemotional". Marsh did, of course, make a famous & still pertinent distinction between emotion and _emoting_ (considering the latter a selfindulgence to be avoided). It was Wayne Shorter who reintroduced a Lestorian cool back into 1960s jazz, & fans of that mode of jazz might do well to turn back to the work of Marsh & Konitz from the 1950s.
This album is one of a number of Tristanoite discs recorded by Atlantic in the 1950s--crucial documentation given that so few studio recordings exist by Tristano, Marsh & Konitz from this period. (Fans of cool-school jazz get used to dealing with grimly-recorded live dates released on specialist labels.) This is one of the best; besides Konitz's alto & Marsh's tenor, it features the pianist Sal Mosca (replaced on one track by Ronnie Ball), the guitarist Billy Bauer, Oscar Pettiford on bass and Kenny Clarke on drums.
One thing the disc suggests is how scary it must have been to play with Warne Marsh (there's one story that at a jam session even Stan Getz was intimidated by Marsh's playing!). Even Konitz at a few points seems to be startled by what the tenorman is doing. Marsh could play with tremendous speed & rhythmic subtlety, packing in ideas without pause or filler, & play rings around others--he actually plays _higher_ than Konitz at many points here. His tone is sui generis--veiled & oblique--& his grasp of harmonic possibilities puts most boppers to shame. -- Konitz's playing here isn't nearly as involuted as Marsh's, but just as creative: his famously "pure" alto tone is nonetheless as arresting as any more conventionally blues-based approach, & especially its near-cry in the high register.
The classic tracks here are "Two Not One" & "Background Music", the apotheosis of the extremely complex heads favoured by Tristano & his students. The latter is a Marsh line based on "All of Me"; the former sounds like it's based on "I Can't Believe That You're in Love with Me". There's also, among other things, a fine blues, "Don't Squawk", & the marvelous "Donna Lee", in which at the return of the head the already difficult line is played with extra rhythmic displacements that compound the difficulty: a real tour de force. "Ronnie's Line" is played using a characteristic Tristano device of omitting to state the head until the very end; it's also a good opportunity to hear the underrated pianist Ronnie Ball (his solo disc on Savoy, now out of print, should be snapped up if you see it). Ball's got a blunter, more good-humoured approach than Mosca, whose playing I'm not greatly enamoured of.
A fine album. Konitz's real masterpieces come a little further on, perhaps, notably with _Motion_ on Verve and the Half Note sessions, but this is still an excellent disc.
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A must for all collections! 23 Nov. 1999
By Buddy Dearent - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
Two of Lennie Tristano's prime students at their very best circa 1956. One of their best outings since the now famous Lennie Tristano Capital Records date. Interesting lines built on standard chord progressions. Every track is at the highest level of improvisation in the hands of these masters of the cool school. Cool; yet all solo's have an underlying intensity seldom to be found in the players of this idiom.
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Essential. 30 Sept. 2005
By Shawn - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
You hear a lot about the "Tristano" school, Lee Konitz, and "cool jazz."

The recordings by Lee Konitz, Warne Marsh, Lennie Tristano (and their co-conspirators like Sal Mosca, Billy Bauer) are just wonderful music. These are players who had a deep understanding of Charlie Parker. But, they also were well versed in the vocabulary of Louis Armstrong and Lester Young. They didn't just rehash what they learned from Parker. Like Rollins and Coltrane, they also took the next step. This is what makes these recordings so special; it's not just a reaction to the music of the be-boppers. It's really a culmination of where jazz had been, and where it would go in the future.

There's a lot of group improvisation here, at times it's almost like chamber music. The influence of Armstrong and New Orleans jazz is evident, and their music displays a collaborative spirit which musicians like Bill Evans, Ornette Coleman, Stan Getz/Bob Brookmeyer, and the Miles Davis Quintet of the mid-sixties would further explore.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
Two Guys Having Fun .... 25 May 2010
By Giordano Bruno - Published on Amazon.com
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.... just as the cover photos shows. This is playful, jump-for-joy jazz, in the mood that went underground for most of the Bebop era. Alto sax Lee Konitz and tenor sax Warne Marsh were invariably, throughout their careers, identified as disciples of Lenny Tristano, which they were, and therefore as cool-jazz unemotional players, which they certainly weren't. Energy and exuberance are emotions also. Both Konitz and Marsh had learned their melodic licks from Charlie Parker as much as their sense of tonality and structure from Tristano. Honestly, on this CD, the Parker influence predominates, but it's a fresh-air warm-humored version of Parker. Technically, these two musicians took gold and silver for "chops" among the saxophonists of their generation. That's what you'll hear on this 1956 LP re-release: extraordinarily vibrant but smoothly controlled melodic playing.

The combo of two saxes always seems to me to be the hottest sound in jazz, especially when the saxes are backed up by a discreet but creative rhythm section -- on this performance, Kenny Clarke on drums, Oscar Pettiford on bass, Billy Bauer on guitar -- and a pianist with harmonic insight. The piano work by Sal Mosca on four of the eight tracks on this CD is tristanoesque tasty.

Perhaps Marsh and Konitz were "musicians' musicians" in comparison to raucously emotive jazzmen like Albert Ayler and John Coltrane. But hey, it's okay to appreciate both.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
Unbelievably good 25 Oct. 2009
By L. Topper - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
You kind of have to like the Tristano" school of jazz. It is ultra cool. The two most famous and arguably best proponents of this school of jazz are Lee Konitz and Warne Marsh. You will also see works by Sal Mosca and Billy Bauer. The latter two are also very good, but Lee Konitz and Warne Marsh are special.

Wait till you hear these guys play the coda to Donna Lee. It is hot in terms of the bebop tune itself which requires some real chops to play, but the tone is like dry ice. (How do they do that?!) It does not have the "soul" and "heat" sound of the hard bop school typified by Art Blakey and that 1950's sound Blue Note jazz which we all really love.

These two guys know how to swing in a style that is really all their own. It is not the lily white sound of West Coast jazz played by the Kenton band members on their records. It has its own esthetic that is beyon descripton. This record gives the listener unfamiliar with Tristano's style of play in a way that is very accessible and exciting. To real jazz fans of music from the 1950's and 1960's Konitz and Marsh are really stars in their own right.

When I first got this recording, it was in the 1970's. This recording was on vinyl and devilishly difficult to find (Japanese import) and rediculously expensive. Now you can get it from Amazon for a very reasonable price. That is progress!!
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