These are fabulous-looking and look stunning in my garden. I have one each side of a rose arch, one honeysuckle, one clematis. Initially I was taken aback at the amount of space the drainage system takes up. It is about 10 - 12 cm high in the bottom of the pot so reduces the volume of soil you can put in. I hope it is sufficient for my plants, but meanwhile, I love these pots and will probably buy some more.