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Italian With Michel Thomas Short Course CD [Audiobook] [Audio CD]

Michel Thomas
3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (8 customer reviews)

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Product details

  • Audio CD
  • Publisher: Hodder Education (1 May 2000)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 0340780703
  • ISBN-13: 978-0340780701
  • Product Dimensions: 17.4 x 13.6 x 2.8 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (8 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 354,405 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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Review

"Ideal for any business traveller who needs to be able to get around confidently." (Sunday Business )

"A great way to learn; it's fast and it lasts". (The Daily Telegraph )

"Five minutes into the first CD, you already feel like you're winning." (Time Out )

"Michel Thomas is a precious find indeed." (The Guardian )

"Thomas makes it simple" (Sunday Times )

"Michel's methods will teach you effectively and easily" (Daily Star )

"Hugely inspiring" (Red )

"A compelling teacher ... you really do remember what you're learning"

(Italia! )

'Remarkably effective, addictive even'

(London Evening Standard )

"Excellent for learning ... This entirely audio course is easy to use and quickly results in some useful ability in the new language. Great for the car."
 

(Adventure Travel )

"Moving along at a relaxed, slow pace, punctuated by amusing anecdotes and jokes from the teacher, the new words, phrases and language rules are gently introduced and reinforced through subtle repetition without ever being tedious. In fact, despite a distinct emphasis on non-work, the course proves very effective and enjoyable, and its format is ideal for learning anywhere you like. So, if you only want to learn to speak the language, this course is highly recommended."

(Top Real Travel Product, Real Travel )

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"Five minutes into the first CD, you already feel like you're winning." --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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20 of 20 people found the following review helpful
I was recommended this course by a friend and have since turned evangelical about the method to all and sundry. The format of the course is very simple; Michel Thomas conducts a lesson with two other students and you listen and then answer the questions he asks. This methodology has been done a thousand times before. But what makes Michel Thomas' unique - in my experience - is that he teaches useful phrases that you can use to build up into sentences. As you learn more and more of these phrases then so you begin to be able to construct sentences that make sense. Within a couple of hours I was able to ask and answer simple questions in Italian. It's fantastic and the interactive element really seems to work. Highly recommended.
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32 of 33 people found the following review helpful
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Thomas' method is excellent, these courses really set a new standard in language tuition materials. My quibble with this particular product is that it is simply the first quarter of the full course, and as such ends rather abruptly, without having covered even some basic stuff like greetings and number. The audio-only format also means it isn't exactly handy as a reference tool (you won't remember it _all_ for all time!) That said, this very productive and enjoyable two hours in Michel's company left me impatient for the rest of the course.
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72 of 76 people found the following review helpful
What I really liked about this course was that it taught the language without any rote learning and seemed to do so very effectively. I had considered myself a linguistic lost cause previously and was delighted to learn anything at all. However, after completing the 8 lessons I discovered that I couldn't really understand anything said at normal speed, nor construct phrases without having to think really hard first. It would be useful if MT taught you the italian for hello, goodbye, telling the time or even any numbers beyond 3 for that matter, even if pleasantries and vocab aren't the focus of his course. A lot of MT cannot really be applied with an italian in italy- when you don't have that throaty voice telling you what to say, you are suddenly at sea. In my opinion he exaggerates how comprehensive his course is.

Also, idiosyncrasies in both his english and his italian pronunciation are a problem. Two examples: In english he pronounces "want" and "won't" the same when asking for translations- this produces "incorrect" answers from any student (including those on the tape) which he does not realise are his fault even though the same thing recurrs repeatedly (why did nobody tell him?). I found the long, slow, incorrect explanations that "want and won't are different in italian even though they are the same in english" irritating. In Italian he pronounces "Io" as one syllable Yo. It only ever sounds like this in very fast speech in italian.

The other problem is that you have to pause the cd to answer out loud (this is the constant method of instruction). This is a problem because it is very often not obvious whether MT has finished asking the question or not- it is very frustrating when the female student butts in straight away without giving you time to pause and think for yourself. With all the pausing required, MT's courses take much longer than the length of their recordings suggest (if you follow his instructions) and I was never sure where would be a good place to stop.
Neither of the students are really the ideal choice. In addition to the female student's bull in a china shop approach- really unhelpful in the "think- answer" method of MT- the male student makes very simple mistakes repeatedly. (That said, his pronunciation is often better than MT when he gets the words right!) It would be useful if the mistakes made by the students were not always quite so obvious- it is a waste of time listening to people giving very obvious wrong answers.

Impressed as I was at the time, however, I decided to continue.
The next stage, his "vocabulary builder" is, strangely, rote learning, parrot fashion. As well as being extremely boring, it is not very useful because the individual phrases are not explained in any detail- you don't know the meaning as you did in the 8 lesson course (the depth of understanding being one of its good points). The advanced course doesn't follow straight on from the 8 lesson course so you can't skip the vocab builder.

This was the point at which I changed to Pimsleur- which, in in my opinion is everything that MT should be! Pimsleur uses a similar method but in a much less haphazard fashion. All of the speakers are native. Pauses are on the cd, you learn to think and answer quickly and confidently in Italian and you also know exactly how long the lesson will last (each one is half and hour). There is a smooth progression from beginning to end. 5 lessons away from the end of Pimsleur (90 lessons in total), I have gone long way beyond what MT teaches (in all areas) and am a lot more comfortable using it. It gives you more vocab (including all the numbers you could ever want in part 1) than MT without ever resorting to rote learning. Like MT, all of the language learning is on the cd's, but Pimsleur does provide lessons in reading- so you know how to pronounce Italian from writing. In addition I found the grammar and word-order much less confusing. I think that completing part IA (15 lessons) of Pimsleur would be more useful than MT- although it does not cover as many verbs or tenses as MT, you would get by more easily in Italy and improvise more effectively with what you had.
I would say MT got me speaking Italian like an Austrian, Pimsleur like an Italian. I regret spending money on MT.

You can't buy comprehensive Pimsleur on Amazon UK and it is very expensive- quite a few public libraries have it though.

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