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Ireland and the Irish: Portrait of a Changing Society (Penguin Non Fiction) [Paperback]

John Ardagh
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  • Paperback: 496 pages
  • Publisher: Penguin Books Ltd; New edition edition (31 Aug 1995)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 0140171606
  • ISBN-13: 978-0140171600
  • Product Dimensions: 19.6 x 12.7 x 1.9 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (1 customer review)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 1,327,158 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
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This is a book about Ireland and the Irish. Although not history, it will cover the past extensively, although not politics it will cover north and south, "the troubles" and their background. There will be much about the people, their defining national character and personality, the relationship to Europe, Britain and the US and although not literary criticism, there will be a lot about the arts and literature of the country.

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1 of 2 people found the following review helpful
Rather disappointing 18 Feb 2001
By A Customer
Format:Paperback
Ardagh's insights into Ireland, though interesting, are not only limited in their outlook, but quite dated. In more than one respect you get the feeling that his choice of interviewees was strange. I would recommend it for those who have little or no knowledge of Ireland, but not for the serious Irish enthusiast.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
outdated, but still interesting 21 Dec 2003
By cammykitty - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback
I may have had a slightly older edition of this book since the last dates refered to were 1995 and Amazon lists this as 1997. ...Ardagh doesn't hesitate to put forth his own personal opinions, which are very British. But it takes an outsider eye to write a book such as this that looks at the general character of a people and their changing history. An insider would find many things, such as the casual mixing of classes, not worth mentioning. But to an outsider, those are the very things that set the Irish apart as a people.

As a reader from the United States, his use of pounds and constant camparisons to the British political system weren't very helpful, and his use of the term "wetback" was disconcerting. I'm not sure he meant it to be a colorful word or an offensive word. However, Ardagh clearly loves Ireland and has spent plenty of time there. He shows political trends and the changing role of the church unflinchingly -- complete with all the scandals. I remember reading about Miss X, a 14-yr old rape victim who was stopped from going to England for an abortion, when it happened. What you get from this book that wasn't in the U.S. Newspapers was this mixed reactions of the Irish people. Ardagh makes it very clear that although there are generalizations that can be made about the Irish, they are certianly not "One Voice."

I also appreciated the 100 pg chapter on Northern Ireland. He managed to write about "the troubles" without taking sides other than that of anyone who wanted a lasting peace. He did defend the British role in a way that reflected his native heritage, but at the same time he openly admitted that some of the actions of the British Army and the Royal Ulster Constabulary have fanned the fires. I understood and respected the more recent British approach in a way I hadn't before. I had not been aware that the IRA and UDN were both involved in vigilante activities in their own communities, and that extorting collection money was common practice. I shouldn't have been surprised, but I was. For some reason, I thought the paramilitary groups spent their time and energy on each other and didn't have time for these sideline, ganglike activities.

It was also interesting to read the postscript that was written during the ceasefire and peace attempt during John Major's premiership. Ardagh had spent many, many pages talking about different Irish-led ventures that brought Protestants and Catholics together to foster peace. I found myself asking, with so many people working towards peace, how come it isn't happening? And the description of the Mid-90s peace attempt sounded so similar to the more recent attempt under Tony Blair & Bertie Ahern's premierships, that it was both interesting and frustrating. I followed the last round very closely, as an Irish American yes, but more because "the troubles" is my first memory of war. I remember my father answering questions like "what is a hunger strike." I remember watching buildings in London coming down on the nightly news. But I wasn't old enough to connect the two. I was eager to see a war that had been in the background all my life, wrapped up and ended. Alas. When I was reading Ardagh's hopeful postscript, I wanted to throw the book against the wall because I knew the violence still continues.

In summary, worthwhile read, but there are probably more current books available. And I still hope for peace in Northern Ireland.

3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
A good read 21 Feb 2005
By M. K. Lombardi - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback
The Ardagh book has been in my collection since it came out. I found it very intelligent and fair in its depictions of Ireland. It presented a good overview and Ardagh seems to have a sense of affection for the country. He has a good grasp on the role of the Catholic church in Ireland and,all in all, was respectful of others' beliefs although he was puzzled by them I travel there often and only wish that with the tremendous social and economic changes, almost upheavals, which have occured in Ireland in the last 10-12 years that he would do an update on the book. This book, although outdated today, is well worth reading for the insights which can be gained.
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful
Another Great Book by John Ardagh 22 Sep 1999
By AZ2SI - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback
Highly Recommended!

John Ardagh has written a number of highly praised books on modern European societies, and this book is as good as the others. Once you read an Ardagh book, you will walk away with a good understanding of what really makes a country tick. Please realize that this is not a history book (although it does provide the necessary historical background). If you need to know ANYTHING about modern Irish society, look no further. "Ireland and the Irish" is a complete and unbiased profile of a rapidly changing nation.

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