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Invisible Romans: Prostitutes, outlaws, slaves, gladiators, ordinary men and women ... the Romans that history forgot
 
 

Invisible Romans: Prostitutes, outlaws, slaves, gladiators, ordinary men and women ... the Romans that history forgot [Kindle Edition]

Robert C. Knapp
3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (14 customer reviews)

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'Unusual and scholarly...rich with revelation' --Daily Express

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This book brings Rome's invisible inhabitants to life. Robert Knapp seeks out the tradespeople, innkeepers, housewives, priests, prostitutes, freedmen, slaves, soldiers and gladiators who formed the fabric of everyday life in ancient Rome and the outlaws and pirates who lay beyond it.

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  • Format: Kindle Edition
  • File Size: 2559 KB
  • Print Length: 394 pages
  • Page Numbers Source ISBN: 1846684021
  • Publisher: Profile Books (16 Jun 2011)
  • Sold by: Amazon Media EU S.à r.l.
  • Language: English
  • ASIN: B0054461MI
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  • Average Customer Review: 3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (14 customer reviews)
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26 of 27 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Invisible Romans 18 Oct 2011
Format:Hardcover
The vast majority of evidence about the life of the Romans comes from, and reflects, lives of the elite. Knapp has attempted, with a degree of success, to look at the lives of the `ordinary' as opposed to this elite. He examines the ordinary man and woman in the street, the poor, slaves, freedmen, soldiers, prostitutes, gladiators, bandits and pirates. The sources he uses are partly predictable, gravestones for example, but others less so. He uses, quite extensively, Artemidorus of Daldus The Interpretation of Dreams. This worried me a little until I read Knapp's final chapter on his sources. He explains that Artemidorus `gives extensive treatment to a wide variety of dreams, all, he claims, based on actual experience.' If this is accepted then using the text as evidence of the mind-set of the non-elite is perfectly valid. And it is mind-set that Knapp is looking for, the way the ordinary people, invisible in the elite sources, actually thought about their lot. Each chapter deals with a different set of people. There has been a lot of work done in recent years about Roman women, but most of this has related to the elite. Knapp concentrates on the `ordinary', using epigraphy amongst other things. I always worry a little about the accuracy of this sort of evidence. When something is being erected for posterity a very sanitised version of life would surely appear. It does, however, show how they would like to be remembered, the ideal. Other sources used include such fiction as The Golden Ass and fables, and the New Testament. Any one source would be questionable, but taking them together adds more weight. I would have liked a proper bibliography, and better referencing, and found the writing style less than stimulating, but on balance found it both enlightening and interesting.
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10 of 10 people found the following review helpful
By JennyD VINE VOICE
Format:Hardcover|Verified Purchase
Knapp's book addresses one of the biggest problems we face with ancient history; we only know about the people at the top of society. Millions of silent voices in the Roman world have been given a voice by this book as Knapp goes from group to group (gladiators, prostitutes and outlaws etc) and looks at their lives. He tries to look at their 'mind worlds' (a term that admittedly irritates me) and attempts to recreate their concerns and how they thought. The amount of research is impressive with countless sources being referred to although I did think that there were too many references to The Golden Ass. I realise the work might contain a treasure trove of information about the average poor Roman but Knapp wanders into dull repetition through overuse of the source.
Nevertheless, I enjoyed reading this book and was grateful for the extra touches of a glossary, a word on the sources and index. This book is a very important and unique work in that I believe this is the first time someone has dedicated such effort into solely concentrating on the average joe on the street. The poor man (or woman) just trying to get by. I particularly found the outlaw chapter interesting, especially the discussion on the almost democratic nature of pirates. While this book is not as immensely readable as works by other academics like Mary Beard, it is nevertheless an interesting read and a must for people who just want an idea of what life was like for the average person.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Good Background Reading 3 Nov 2012
By Paul
Format:Kindle Edition|Verified Purchase
Ancient Rome is a fascinating subject with plenty of information available, since the Romans spread everywhere and left much for the historians and archaeologists to write about. I've reading on my shelf about Rome, whether that's the Army's embarrassment in the Teutoberg Forest or crossing the Rubicon, and the extent of the Empire in 211... But what was it like for the bulk of the population? There were many slaves, and you can easily understand that life in the mines, an agricultural chain gang on a Senator's estate outside Rome, or chained to an oar in a Naval galley was likely to be short and brutal, but was it like that for most of them? This book explains that many slaves were indistinguishable from the general ruck of tradesmen throughout the Empire. I've a treatise on the plough in Britain, showing that agricultural development ceased after the Roman invasion, until the Danes imported some serious oxen-drawn kit which could tackle the heavy soils in the river valleys; this book tells that farmers in the Empire worked hard for uncertain reward. A useful complement to any aspect of Roman history.
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9 of 10 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars A Bit of Work is good for you? 4 May 2013
Format:Paperback
Ok, I've read the excellent reviews thus far and don't disagree. So, you may ask, why only 3 stars?

Well, for those of us avid lovers of anything ancient Rome, each new book that gives an insight into what it was really like to live in 'those times' (accepting that 'those times' were several hundred years in duration) is something which is snapped up to feed our voracious appetitites. It sat there on my bookshelf for a good few months and I was, in my own sad way, looking forward to reeding it.

Within several pages I started to get a sense of disappointment: it was a bit of a slog. And it stayed a bit of a slog all the way through.

Now don't get me wrong, it is enjoyable and entertaining, but you have to do a bit of work to get the pleasure out. THe author has obviously put in a lot of effort and of course this should attract our approval. But there is a 'but', and it goes like this: he pretty continuously quotes the sources he has been using. Now I'd prefer the author to have read all the background material and then to kind of paint a picture for us - that's what popular historians do. To read this you are repeatedly required to read the same source material as he has read.

It may be that you are happy with this or even prefer it - that's fine, but if you're lke me (perhaps lazy, I don't know) I'd rather the aurthor conjures up this believable world that I can then really sense, that I can get a real feel of.

The consequence of all this is that, to me, it come across as a little sterile...

Perhaps it's just me, and I wouldnt want to detract fromn the educational/historical value of the book. Perhaps it really is me, because at the other extreme I'm bored by what I see as a lack of authenticity in novels about Rome.
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Most Recent Customer Reviews
4.0 out of 5 stars Interesting topic
An interesting book dealing with the little known aspects of Roman society as most sources deal with the elite - largely becuase the elite and those who write for and about them... Read more
Published 2 months ago by ABmonkey
4.0 out of 5 stars The everyday roman
This was a present and nice to get something on Romans that is not about senior figures in roman society.
Published 3 months ago by Dave Butts
1.0 out of 5 stars Badly written & badly edited
Awful book - I really expected better from a Berkley professor. I started this book, abandoned it when the turgid writing style drove me away and then restarted it because the... Read more
Published 10 months ago by Jo Brookes
2.0 out of 5 stars Defeated
I had the impression (perhaps I'm wrong) that it was long on waffle and short on facts. Usually I will not let a book defeat me but this one did because I couldn't finish it. Read more
Published 11 months ago by vergil
5.0 out of 5 stars Invisible Romans
Altogether, I would recommend this book which I bought for research. The author does a marvelous job with the material, illustrating the lives of the ordinary people who have... Read more
Published 11 months ago by Jeff Baker
4.0 out of 5 stars Not entirely successful
"Invisible Romans" is a book about the people, who were not members of the rich and powerful elite (hardcover 2011, paperback 2013). Read more
Published 12 months ago by Torben Retboll
5.0 out of 5 stars Fascinating insight
Throws new light on the real Romans - including the fact that most were not Roman or even Italian. The chapter on the gladiators is particularly interesting, but then so are all... Read more
Published 14 months ago by J. Harling
4.0 out of 5 stars Highly readable
There are numerous books about everyday life in ancient Rome. The reader will think that there is a wealth of primary evidence that gives us a full view of Roman social history. Read more
Published 15 months ago by Ian.S.
5.0 out of 5 stars Invisible Romans
After Mary Beard's Pompeii this is the book to buy to get a real insight into Roman life 2000 years ago.
Published 16 months ago by Edwin Underhill
5.0 out of 5 stars Invisible Romans
This is an excellent book. It is exactly what I was looking for to learn about these aspects of Roman life and society. It is thoroughly researched.
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