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5.0 out of 5 stars
Essential for full-ring limit players,
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This review is from: Hold'em on the Come: Limit Hold'em Strategy for Drawing Hands (Paperback)
This book is essential for full ring limit hold 'em players and useful for short handed limit players. There are no charts showing what starting hands to play and when but discusses how to play you're draws - considering you will only hit the flop one-third of the time you will be drawing the rest of the time. It discusses when to carry on and when to fold based on number of outs (there are 3 chapters on calculating your "true" outs and how to use this info), number of players, type of players, size of the pot and PROJECTED size of the pot. If you're current train of thought is "I have six out and I don't have pot odds then I should fold." then this will put a whole new spin on how you play your draws and fully demonstrates the scientific nature of limit hold 'em over the feel and art of no limit hold 'em. Even the "to be avoided" inside straight draw is demonstrated as a good draw if the projected pot size is in your favour.
If you thought "how can this subject be stretched to a whole book" then think again - this book will open your eyes to how to play your draws effectively for every given situation. Be warned - this is not a beginner "how to play" book as it does contain a fair amount of maths and assumes you know what pot odds, outs and implied odds are. An essential book to add to the collection of any limit player.
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3.5 out of 5 stars (8 customer reviews) 14 of 15 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Mixed Reactions,
By luadhas - Published on Amazon.com
This review is from: Hold'em on the Come: Limit Hold'em Strategy for Drawing Hands (Paperback)
This book deals ONLY with the play of drawing hands from the flop on,in limit hold'em.
Parts of the book I thought were quite good (though some parts were valuable only for beginning players), and other parts seemed rather unnecessary. Overall the author takes an odds view of draws. If the odds are there you must play. He certainly doesn't overlook other factors, but that's not the main focus. The sections on counting outs was quite good, especially the theory of discounting some outs based on the situation. Several other sections gave some extremely valuable advice. However, the author introduces some charts, that I just didn't find useful. They're supposed to get the reader to think about situations so that he may be prepared when it occurs in game. Personally, I found the action charts to muddy the waters. So, is the book worthwhile? Is a book that deals solely with draws something you need? Maybe. (Hence my mixed reations.) There's plenty of valuable information in the book, but also a fair amount of filler...or material that only beginners would need. Most of the info CAN be gained from reading other books, but this has it all in one place. 9 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Best Chasing Book,
By P. Rippy - Published on Amazon.com
This review is from: Hold'em on the Come: Limit Hold'em Strategy for Drawing Hands (Paperback)
I was a little shocked when I noticed 2 stars for this book. It has only been one review so far, I have a feeling the ratings will get better. Let me first start buy declaring that I have almost every book on poker. This book is a "must read", for any fixed limit holdem player. I am also going to assume that since you are online that you will be playing online holdem. This book applies even more to the loose tables online. This book is the most extensive material on drawing hands. It does not have any starting hand charts but plenty of charts on various drawing outs and pot odds etc.. A good portion of this stuff is not even in a TwoPlusTwo book. I shudder to think of all the new players who will start with Small Stakes Holdem and top it off with Hold'em on the come. The crazy online games are full of donkey's playing any two cards. When you play these maniacs, you have to draw to some big multi-handed pots. I have not encountered any other book that addresses this topic so extensively. I consider, like most poker players, that TwoPlusTwo books are the best in the poker industry. I will say that between the "How good is your" poker books and this gem of a book- D&B Publishing has to be on the list of any poker player's reading list.
8 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Heavy Value.,
By Bernard Chapin "Ora Et Labora!" - Published on Amazon.com
This review is from: Hold'em on the Come: Limit Hold'em Strategy for Drawing Hands (Paperback)
If the reader is anything like me then they probably play a lot of no limit hold `em, and probably, at some point, have come to the realization that no limit ring games aren't going to last forever. This is particularly true if the reader happens to be a fellow American whose government recently declared war on our perfectly civilized habit of playing online poker. The long and the short of it is that we may well find ourselves in a brick and mortar casino playing whatever game is available with a reasonable buy in, which often, is a limit game (unless you're in Vegas where they have NL 100 and 200 live--by me it's NL 300 only). Therefore, brushing up on, or learning limit for the first time is advisable. With Hold' Em on the Come, Slotboom and Mason only do one thing, but they do it well which is to analyze and proscribe when draws should be played after the flop. The book issues lengthy discussion on this subject, but it is more diverse than you think as it includes low pairs, two pairs, and overcards along with the obvious mix of straights and flushes. From what I can gather, most of the text is really Dew Mason's with additional insight provided by Rolf "Ace" Slotboom. His sections are boxed off and titled "Ace Speaks." The great Ace's commentary enriches the work tremendously, and, personally, I'll buy anything he puts out because I loved his DVDs and still watch them. Overall, I found this offering invaluable.
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