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Gustav Mahler

Termirkanov , St Petersburg Phil Ocrh Audio CD
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  • Audio CD (21 Jun 2005)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Water Lily Acoustics
  • ASIN: B0009PLM1W
  • Other Editions: MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 451,351 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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Listen  1. Trauermarsch. In Gemessenem Schritt. Streng. Wie Ein Kondukt13:33Album Only
Listen  2. Stürmisch Bewegt, Mit Größter Vehemenz14:11Album Only
Listen  3. Scherzo. Kräftig, Nicht Zu Schnell18:04Album Only
Listen  4. Adagietto. Sehr Langsam.10:24Album Only
Listen  5. Rondo-Finale. Allegro - Allegro Giocoso. Frisch.14:44Album Only


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WAT 76; WATER LILY ACOUSTICS - Irlanda; Classica Orchestrale

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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Good performance, stunning sound 24 Aug 2010
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This recording is a great testament to what SACD can do.

I have always been convinced that minimalist miking is the way to go. This recording shows:

1) that a single matched pair of microphones in a classic Blumlein configuration can produce a stunningly realistic soundstage, (albeit long and thin, because of the St Petersburg Great Hall dimensions), instrument focus and dimensionalty. Bla-bla... The long and short of it, though, is that this is a stunningly realistic recording.

2) how a stereo recording, at its best, can record a holographic three-dimensional soundstage.

3) how DSD can produce a highly realistic string sound; this is particularly evidenced throughout the ravishing adagietto. I am fortunate enough to have heard the Leningrad Philharmonic (as it was) several times, and this is exactly the sort of lustrous string sound that is a signature characteristic of this great orchestra.

I could be hyper-critical, but it's not worth it. Bottom-line, this is state-of-the-art sound. It also makes me wish that other recording engineers and producers had the courage to demonstrate that 'less is more' when it comes to recording classical music properly.

So much for the sound. What's the performance like? It's good, but not great. Although I have a lot of respect for Termirkanov, he's no Barbirolli, Karajan or Abbado in this repertoire. There are some changes of gear that don't quite work, primarily in the opening two movements. But the playing throughout is infinitely more secure and controlled than the second division radio orchestra used in Kavi Alexander's other recordings in Russia. As a live performance, I am happy to give it some leeway and award 4 stars.

And the coughing? Well, it's there, but not nearly as disruptive as in the Shostakovich 7 in this series, thank goodness. Although I would like to take out and shoot the culprit during the adagietto...

Water Lily's other projects in Russia were marred, variously, by slipshod playing, second-rate orchestras and music, and saturation coughing. This is the best of the bunch, by a long way, and thoroughly recommendable.
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5.0 out of 5 stars YES, but.......... 17 April 2011
By pfvll
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This CD sounds magnificent and I love the Temirkanov/St Petersburg P.O. take of Mahler's 5th. Superb.

BUT the heading of this listing bears a panel referring to the BBC Music Magazine Awards for 2011, giving the impresson that this recording is among the 2011 winners - or at least the contenders. I have scoured the May 2011 edition of BBC Music Magazine, in which the 2011 Awards are listed, and there is no mention of this recording. False advertising of a CD which needs no tricks to get attention.
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5.0 out of 5 stars One of the Great Mahler 5th's in Poorly Recorded Sound 10 Feb 2011
By Dmitri - Published on Amazon.com
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The performance of this Mahler 5th is great from what I can make of it. Temirkanov makes himself known in this recording as one of the greatest living conductors today. There is something of the Russian Soul as someone said in the Mahler 5th which is brought out so well. Yet Water Lily Acoustics and their technology in the early 21st century seemed to have ruined what would otherwise be a great CD.

I am giving this CD five stars because I do believe in the performance so strongly. Just as long as you know about my caveat that it is one of the worst sounding modern recordings that I've ever heard. The sound is diffuse and weak and ill-defined. I think that there are some MONO recordings that may sound better with the exception of the tape hiss from those recordings. The whole concept behind the engineering was well-intentioned. It was to fiddle very little with a lot of microphones and processing machines. Unfortunately, I guess, you don't get well recorded sound this way.

The St. Petersburg Orchestra is generally pretty strong. For a long time the former Leningrad city had one of the premiere orchestras of the U.S.S.R.. As legend has it the Russians were paid very little for the work they did and had poorer instruments than the West. They remain a strong ensemble, but I am always critical when I hear them because they were from Shostakovich's hometown.

If anything this is a conductor's CD. It mostly showcases Temirkanov's talent to interpret Mahler. I like his interpretation. It isn't corny like Bernstein's VPO effort. It is rather serious and dark or maybe even stark. The Adagietto is beautiful, but so is the rest of the symphony.

So beware this CD sounds bad literally speaking, but the interpretation of the music is phenomenal. A technical lead zeppelin, but a stratospheric reading.
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3.0 out of 5 stars A superb Adagietto, yet the rest could be better... 9 Jan 2007
By darreen - Published on Amazon.com
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I do esteem Mr. Temirkanov, in fact I regard him as the finest living Russian conductor, and his artistical insight into the late-romanticism repertoire is second to none. However this particular performance is below satisfying. Though a close-to-perfect rendition of Adagietto (certainly among the best that I ever heard), and the whole thing actually sounds better after several listening, I still expect a finer output from the St. Petersburg group.

The St. Petersburg brass players were sort of off form. They could even seem to be out of tune at times, and the playing is faulty too. E.g., the trumpet diminished unexpectedly at 12'14", which was a rather odd phrasing, and the horn player apparently hiccuped at 6'00" during the scherzo (though comparatively, he did an overall decent job for this movement). The finale was half-destroyed by the disturbing brass sound, I'd say. And the ear-piercing brass passage during the last couple of minutes made the rest of the orchestra essentially inaudible.

Second, this living recording sounds embarrassingly "living". Not to mention those everlasting coughing. I respect Water Lilly's efforts in making this record, yet I'm left questioning the renown of Shostakovich Hall. The orchestra playing is surprisingly distant and two-dimensional. The overall vague texture might suggest some depth, I don't know. The brass keeps pinching one's right ear, with the low string roaring some miles ahead (and extremely muddy, too). (The SACD sound might be better, I'm yet to find out).

Though this might have been the engineers' goal to achieve, a real "living" experience as if you were in the hall, it is somehow uncomfortable. On the other hand, the recording by itself does possess the feeling of authenticity, reality, conveying the full dynamic range and very fine details. So is it the Shostakovich Hall to blame? In fact it not impossible, IMHO. It was actually the concern on the Hall's acoustic quality (superb for live performances though) accounted largely for Mr. Temirkanov's hesitation of making recordings, and it is currently undergoing some major renovation. So let's pray for better.
5.0 out of 5 stars A very unusual but great Mahler Fifth, although not in the best sound 21 July 2012
By Santa Fe Listener - Published on Amazon.com
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The lead review is right on both counts, I think. This Mahler Fifth could only have come from a great conductor, and it must be endured in bad sound. It's become a cliche to divide the history of Mahler performance in two - the first era is Before Bernstein, the second After Bernstein, dating from 1960 onward. Temirkanov seems to have no inkling of this. His style owes nothing to Bernstein's high emotion and charisma. At the same time, t doesn't track with the interpretation of the Fifth by Bruno Walter with the NY Phil., the most famous recording in the mono era.

How to describe it? With no Mahler tradition to speak of in Russia, Temirkanov rethinks every bar. It is quite startling to hear the first movement played gently and mournfully, with very soft contours and an overflow of tenderness. The funeral march rhythm doesn't pound away; accents are minimal, although he does make Mahler's sudden eruptions of sound count. This gentler mood sets the tone for the whole performance, which might imply a certain sleepiness. But Temirkanov is wide awake and alert to every change of mood and pace. He takes me back almost to the extreme rubato of Mengelberg; the only difference is that Temirkanov's rubato feels truer to the score, less arbitrary and imposed (not that Mengelberg wasn't a great pioneer of Mahler in the twentieth century).

the simplest thing to say is that where other Fifths grind along, this one soars at every opportunity. The Adagietto is so natural and touching, it seems miraculous that every conductor can't see do clearly into it. The problematic finale is as joyous as everything else; its ebb and flow has the same naturalness. Perhaps my favorite movement, however, is the Scherzo, which sails into another dimension.

For these musical reasons, I won't dwell on the sound. It's stereo, a bit muddy, and done at a very low level (I had to raise the volume to 80db). The strings are too soft compared with the brass, and the timpani are so distant as to be inaudible. It surprises me that this is an original DSD recording made in concert by Water Lily Acoustics in Sept. 2003. I mistook it for a Russian FM radio broadcast. In any event, Temirkanov's St. Petersburg Phil. plays magnificently for him, fully the equal of a first-rate European orchestra.
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