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Godslayer (Sundering) [Mass Market Paperback]

Jacqueline Carey
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17 July 2006 Sundering (Book 2)
Once human but now immortal, Supreme Commander Lord Tanaros chose darkness when driven mad by the betrayal of his adulterous wife and his liege king who cuckolded him. A thousand years later, his only allegiance is to his master, the dark god Satoris. The name of Satoris is the word for evil throughout all the races, and the legend of Tanaros has become the byword for treachery. Now there is a new prophecy that tells of Satoris's destruction and the redemption of the world. To thwart it, Tanaros is holding captive the Lady of the Ellylon, the beautiful Cerelinde, to prevent her alliance with the last High King of Men. Though all who support Satoris clamour for her death, Tanaros refuses to act like the monster that he is made out to be. He discovers that not all of his heart has been lost - and his feelings for Cerelinde could doom Satoris, but also save the race of Men.

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  • Mass Market Paperback: 416 pages
  • Publisher: Tor Books; New edition edition (17 July 2006)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 076535098X
  • ISBN-13: 978-0765350985
  • Product Dimensions: 17.4 x 10.7 x 2.8 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 273,223 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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"A fascinating exploration of the morality of those who claim to be good and those who have accepted the label evil."--"Romantic Times Bookclub""Magazine" (3 stars) on "Godslayer"

"A writer to watch--as the cliche goes--but more important, a writer to read."--Storm Constantine


"Carey's sensual, often erotically charged prose is reminiscent of the best efforts of Tanith Lee and Anne Rice."--"Library Journal "on" Godslayer"

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Jacqueline Carey is a New York Times bestselling author.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Godslayer 14 April 2008
By John H
Format:Mass Market Paperback
So much better than the first book of the series. Excellent book with lots of questions to be answered. Which side will win and who realy are the bad guys. All the usual qualities of a Carey book. The only regret is the exeptionally long wait for the final book of the series
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4.0 out of 5 stars A strong, tragic conclusion to the series 18 Jun 2011
By A. Whitehead TOP 500 REVIEWER VINE VOICE
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The land of Urulat is about to see the end of a conflict thousands of years old. The machinations of Satoris the Sower have been exposed and the would-be King of the West, Aracus Altorus, advised by the Wise Counsellor Malthus, has raised a mighty host to assault Darkhaven and rescued his beloved, Cerelinde of the Ellylon. It falls to Satoris' most loyal servants, the Three, to prepare his defence. But whilst great armies ready for the clash, it falls to two of the humble desert-people to find their way into Darkhaven and strike the blow that will render Satoris truly vulnerable.

Godslayer is the second and final novel in The Sundering, a duology that studies and subverts the traditional epic fantasy paradigm as established by Tolkien. Like its forebear, Banewreaker, Godslayer is an epic tragedy, closely based on events and characters from J.R.R. Tolkien's The Silmarillion, Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, but at every turn analysing deeply every character's motivation. As Satoris ponders, does it matter that you are not evil if everyone else believes that you are?

This premise allows Carey to examine many themes and ideas, such as propaganda (Malthus/Gandalf as a sort-of Goebbels for the 'good guys' is an interesting take), destiny and the cyclical nature of history: just as Morgoth was cast down but his servant Sauron was overlooked, allowing him to return later, so Satoris has his own lieutenants who stand poised to inherit his mantle. These ideas are rooted in strong characterisation, particularly of Tanaros and Cerelinde, though other characters also come to the fore.

Godslayer suffers from some minor issues. The story is inherently predictable, once you realise what Carey is doing.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Gloom, Doom and misery. 6 Jan 2010
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A beautifully written tale, with magnificent characters to love and hate, to pity and to despise. A tale of grand ideals and unshakable faith, perfect honour and loyalty so deep it was boundless. And when all was said and done, quite possibly one of the most soul crushingly depressing books I've ever read. I'm probibly being childish wanting a happy ending, but the total devastation that is the conclusion of this book was like being punched in the gut. Indeed "happy" was nowhere to be found. I made the mistake of buying "The Kushiel" series before I had read "The Sundering", and now I have doubts that I can bring myself to suffer such doom, gloom and misery by reading the five volumes of that series. It is a real pity that the author felt the need to make betrayal and deceit laudable qualities, and to repay the worst offenders with the ultimate victory. I don't write many reveiws, preferring to allow people to make their own choices and mistakes, but in this instance I felt the need to exorcise the deep, deep melancholy that this story has left me feeling. A real, real shame.
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4.0 out of 5 stars More than just an interesting idea 16 Jun 2011
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The basic premise of this book - what if Sauron from The Lord of The Rings wasn't such a bad guy after all - could easily have been just a mildly diverting idea however the author succeeds in making this only the first step in an interesting and enjoyable story.

Other fantasy books with similar genre-bending ideas (orcs are good, elves are bad etc.) often tend to be quite badly written however in this instance, although you can spot the obvious LOTR references (there is a Frodo character, a Gandalf and so on), the writing is good enough that this becomes a tool rather than a crutch.

Having read LOTR, I came to appreciate the way it cast an ominous shadow over the proceedings in Godslayer (and the preceding Banewreaker) and I felt that having some idea of the probable outcome added a certain unique flavour. Despite this, it never seemed that the story was a forgone conclusion.

Well worth a try.
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22 of 25 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Fascinating commentary on Tolkien 31 Jan 2006
By V. Chan - Published on Amazon.com
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This isn't, as some have described it, "The Lord of the Rings" told from Sauron's viewpoint. It's "The Lord of the Rings" set in a non-Christian, non-dualist world, where good and evil are secondary constructs, not fundamental conditions of the universe. The tragedy comes from the clash of perceptions, as the "good" side tries to impose its black and white (and incomplete) version of reality upon a world that is significantly more complex than that.

I was rather disappointed that Carey did not appear to have followed through the implications of destroying a portion of the universal Godhead. It's not really clear from anything that comes before why Satoris'death would not in fact have catastrophic consequences, the next time that the One God decides to reconstitute Itself and discovers that one-sixth of It is missing.

As another reviewer remarked, this is a philosophical meditation disguised as a fantasy novel. Plot, character and worldbuilding are sufficient, but not generous (though I rather liked the creepiness of the Gandalf-figure - mind-control through magic gems, hmm), which is why I am only giving it four stars. A certain familiarity and understanding of Tolkien and his philosophy would probably be very helpful. This is not for someone who just wants Kushiel-style hot sex, travelogues and a wallow in familiar tropes.

I enjoyed reading the two books in this sequence, and it would be nice if she wrote more. I would like to know how the new world at the end turns out.
10 of 10 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Months Later You'll Still Remember 11 April 2006
By Katherine Innis - Published on Amazon.com
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I, like others here, found Jacqueline Carey's Kushiel series a wonderful breath of fresh air in a rather stale fantasy market. So, I, like others here, was excited beyond belief to find The Sundering books. I read both one after another about six months ago. I finished not knowing really what I thought. These books are so different, formal and epic, where Kushiel's are personal and enganging. I was sad and drained; I let a friend borrow them with a warning that they were "dark". She didn't read them and I found myself disappointed because I wanted to talk with someone about the books. As time passed I found myself thinking again about the books, the characters, trying to figure out how it could have gone differently, and wondering what will happen now in the world Ms. Carey has created. Kushiel remains in my mind as a terrific story with amazing characters, settings and it was fun, but The Sundering is what I keep thinking about and want more of.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Change is good part 2 22 Oct 2005
By Gingy - Published on Amazon.com
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Again, I am also a fan of the Kushiel series, however, THIS IS NOT KUSHIEL! This is a whole different world, and it is amazing, with it's own mythology and history.

Wow... some of this book was sadly predictable, not sadly as in bad writing, sad because you know that's how it had to be. Other parts were also amazingly surprising, and also sad in the same aspect, it had to be.

This book was excellent, and it made me cry and laugh at the appropriate parts. And the ending, though it's horrible and made me Carey, was very well-written, and it does leave it open for a possible sequel, which I wouldn't be adverse to.
5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars plot on autopilot 13 Jun 2007
By Robert Haas - Published on Amazon.com
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As other reviewers have noted, the story borrows heavily from LOTR, but with a well-developed cosmology and mythology of its own that make it an interesting read. Unfortunately, it's pretty clear from relatively early on that the supposedly evil guys are really not all that bad, and the supposedly good guys are little better (and in some ways possibly worse), and while that's an interesting concept, it's not really enough. I think Jacqueline Carey sold her readers a little short with this one: the second half of this novel was boringly predictable, as if, having turned good and evil on their heads, she feared to do anything else.
36 of 48 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars ALL THINGS ARE AS THEY MUST BE 29 Dec 2005
By samael775 - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Hardcover
in this wonderful sequel to her magnifcent epic fantasy novel Banewreaker, the battle for Urulat comes to its epic conclusion (maybe). it is beatifully written with a very thought provoking plot and an interesting array of characters. what more can i say? well, what did the skeptics say?

fortunately, most of the romantic fantasy fans and Tolkien purists didn't bother to read (or at least review) this one but still its ratings fall. here are the various complaints against the series and my responses:

ITS NOT LIKE KUSHIEL!

i have yet to read Kushiel, BUT THIS IS A GREAT BOOK. however, if you don't like epic fantasy, you probably won't like it.

IT RIPS OFF TOLKIEN

first of all, WHO CARES! all fantasy books take some inspiration from Tolkien. besides, Tolkien took all that stuff about the beautiful immortal elves(rather than Santa's little helpers), the dwarves that live under the earth, the cursed ring, the sword that was reforged, right out of the Poetic Edda (also a great book). plus, Carey didn't JUST rip off Tolkien, the Marasoumie were right out of Robert Jordan, the whole theme of good seen as evil is very Miltonian, the inevitability of fate theme is omnipresent in Homer, Beowulf, and the Edda, although it seems odd to our modern taste, Satoris' refusal to kill Cerelinde bears striking similarity to Odin's refusal to slay Fenrir, the "water of life" that makes thing young is right of of Norse mythology, the Helm of Shadows sounds like Fafnir's Helm of Terror in the very lays that inspired Tolkien, and the "gifts" of Haomane and Satoris sound like the gifts of Hoenir and Lothur(who is probably Loki, the sort-of-evil god) in the Edda.

I CAN'T SYMPATHIZE WITH ANY OF THE CHARACTERS

if you can't sympathize with anyone who has faults, then you must live a very sheltered life. the only characters who aren't conflicted, and who can't see their own faults, are Haomane's allies. thats the point, they are blindly pursuing their goal towards "paradise" without thinking of the repercussions (sound like our president?). IF YOU NEED CHARACTERS DEFINED IN BLACK AND WHITE THEN DONT READ THIS BOOK!

THE CHARACTERS ACT STUPID

yes, HAOMANE'S ALLIES are blind, thats the theme. Haomane is obssessed with creating his "perfect world" free of emotion, and the humans have been taught that Satoris is the root of all evil. as for the other gods, they're just scared of Haomane. Satoris' allies, on the other hand, know that Satoris is going to die eventually, but they want to keep his gift in the world as long as they can, and die with honor. in our culture that may seem a little dellusional, and perhaps it is, but the ancient epics tell us that in ancient, violent times people believed that destiny was inescapable, and strived for an honorable death rather than a peaceful one. the Were just want peace. the dwarves they probably realize that Haomane is going to win, and don't want to be on his bad side.

ALL THAT STUFF ABOUT THE GIFTS AND THE DRAGONS JUST DOESN'T WORK

its suppsed to be magical, not scientific. IT ISN'T TOTALLY LITERAL! the Fjel can think, but so can dogs or monkeys. they can speak, learn, hunt, and obey, but they don't have the kind of complex analytical or creative abilities of humans. furthermore, Satoris' gift is PASSION not the ability to procreate. Carey uses dragons in Beowulf-like way, as an embodiement of fate. they are omniscient, and can see into the future, but they do not try to change fate, only to carry it out.

I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THESE CHARACTERS

you see what I mean about the Gift of Thought?

SPOILER WARNING: IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE ENDING THEN

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all the characters i like die:(that junk was to keep people who don't want to knoe the ending from reading the title when they skim over this, by the way) yet again, thats the theme. from the end of Banewreaker, its pretty evident this isn't going to be a happy ending. however, Carey likes to dangle a sliver of hope before your eyes, well more than a sliver until the end, and take it away, and maybe you think Satoris will win because thats what you want to think. that proves that you DO care about the characters, and thats why Carey is a great storyteller. you cant believe how stupid everyone is, and you cant hate them for it, but you love them too (except Malthus). she WANTS you to think "how could you do that Lilias" and "how could you do that Cerelide" and why didn't you just KILL HER. if you like happy endings then this is not the book for you. still, it does leave you with a glimmer of hope.
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