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Getting Away with Genocide?: Elusive Justice and the Khmer Rouge Tribunal: Cambodia's Long Struggle Against the Khmer Rouge Hardcover – 20 Oct 2004

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  • Hardcover: 336 pages
  • Publisher: Pluto Press (20 Oct. 2004)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0745320287
  • ISBN-13: 978-0745320281
  • Product Dimensions: 14 x 2.3 x 22.2 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (1 customer review)
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This book will be essential reading for academics, diplomats, journalists, Cambodia specialists and others who follow the Khmer Rouge trial closely. It will also be of special interest to those who follow other international criminal proceedings concerned with genocide and crimes against humanity. Arguments over the Cambodian model for a 'mixed' tribunal (domestic in form but international in character) will continue for years to come. This book explains how this unique model was created and why. The diplomatic, legal and technical twists and turns detailed here are fascinating, instructive and, at times, alarming. For years to come - as the Khmer Rouge trial unfolds or collapses - scholars and commentators are going to find much in this book to inform their analysis of what happened and why. (Bill Herod, head of a social service agency in Phnom Penh and a development worker in Cambodia for over thirty years)

This book is an insider's account of the twenty-five year struggle to bring the Khmer Rouge to justice. Until 1991, the morally bankrupt real-politik of the West not only supported seating the Khmer Rouge in the United Nations, but opposed trying them for their crimes. Over a decade later, a Cambodian - United Nations tribunal is about to convene, if Western governments will donate the money to support it. After this past decade's trillion dollar wars, is sixty million dollars too much to ask to try the remaining leaders of a regime that murdered two million of its own people? This book could not be more timely. (Dr. Gregory H. Stanton, Founder of The Cambodian Genocide Project and President of Genocide Watch)

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Tom Fawthrop is a British journalist who has covered South East Asia, including Cambodia, for major newspapers and journals since 1979. His reports have appeared in the Economist,the Guardian, the London Sunday Times and he has contributed to BBC radio and TV. He produced and directed the TV documentary 'Dreams & Nightmares' shown on Channel 4 in 1989.

Helen Jarvis has been an adviser to the Cambodian government's Task Force on the Khmer Rouge trials since 1999. She was previously Documentation Consultant for Yale University's Cambodian Genocide Program.

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At Long Last, a Time for healing 9 Feb. 2005
By Verghese Mathews - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
Sunday Times, Singapore

Jan 30, 2005

At long last, a time for healing

By Verghese Mathews

For The Straits Times

CAMBODIANS have not failed to notice that while the international community rightly poured out its heart and its resources to assist victims of the tsunami disaster, the same community has been largely blind, indifferent and uncaring when it comes to victims of the Cambodian genocide.

This stark message jumps at you from the pages of a new book on Cambodia's quest for justice following the three years, eight months and 20 dark and terrifying days of the Khmer Rouge (KR).

Authored by British journalist Tom Fawthrop and Australian academic Helen Jarvis, Getting Away With Genocide? Elusive Justice And Khmer Rouge Tribunal is a detailed insider account of the tortuous process of bringing the Khmer Rouge leaders to justice.

Fawthrop has covered the region for leading newspapers, including The Straits Times, for the last 25 years. Jarvis, previously with the University of New South Wales and documentation consultant for Yale University's Cambodian Genocide Programme, has, since 1999, been an adviser to the Cambodian Task Force on the KR Trials.

The plaintive cry in the book is why, after a quarter of a century following the 1979 ouster of the Pol Pot regime by invading Vietnamese forces, none of the perpetrators has been brought to court to answer for the crimes which led to the death of an estimated 1.7 million people, a quarter of the then population of Cambodia.

Fawthrop and Jarvis, both of whom I know personally, hold very strong views on this unacceptable delay. They point to the 'abysmal record' of the United Nations, the 'bitter record of neglect' of the international community and the 'dismal record of complicity' of certain countries with the KR, all of which the authors declare delayed justice.

The writing in this book is opinionated, but this should not detract from its evident and immense scholarship and research.

My quarrel with the authors is that in their almost evangelical criticism of the attitude of the UN and the international community in preventing the then newly installed Phnom Penh government from taking over Cambodia's seat in the UN, and in their disappointment that no western country so much as sent a fact-finding mission to Phnom Penh following the ouster of Pol Pot, they have failed to give adequate _expression to the complex international and regional dynamism which drove the then bipolar world.

There is mention, in passing, that for the United States the choice was simply between moral principles and international law and that the scales weighed in favour of the latter because it served US security interests. But the brevity of the comment suggests that it was included merely to give the appearance of a balanced criticism.

That aside, the authors are right in their anger and disappointment that the KR Tribunal, when it finally takes place probably some time this year, will mark one of the longest struggles to bring genocide perpetrators to justice.

But it is a case of better late than never, though only six or seven are expected to appear in court. The legal text agreed between Cambodia and the UN states that the Tribunal is expected 'to bring to trial senior leaders of Democratic Kampuchea and those who were most responsible for the serious crimes and violations of Cambodian penal law, international humanitarian law and custom, and international conventions recognised by Cambodia that were committed during the period' from April 17, 1975 to Jan 6, 1979.

Still, there is sufficient latitude in the law for justice to be finally served. The authors rightly point out that 'one of the great expectations' of the Cambodian people is that the Tribunal will serve not only to mete out punishment, but also help to provide answers that bring collective healing and closure.

Unfortunately, some of the people who could have provided answers are gone. Pol Pot, Brother No. 1, died unceremoniously in April 1998. Son Sen, his defense minister with responsibility over the infamous Tuol Sleng Prison, is likewise dead.

Among their senior colleagues still alive, most are suffering from some ailment or another.

The fear is that these potential witnesses might die before the Tribunal. Of these, the most senior is Nuon Chea, Brother No. 2, believed to have been the most powerful official after Pol Pot. He surrendered to the government in 1998 and lives quietly in the former KR stronghold of Pailin.

Also living freely and much more comfortably is Ieng Sary, well known internationally as the deputy prime minister and minister for foreign affairs. He defected to the Hun Sen government in 1996 and brought with him several thousand guerillas, effectively breaking whatever strength there was left in the KR.

Then there is Khieu Samphan, who held several senior positions including that of PM and party president. He defected together with Nuon Chea in 1998 and lives modestly in Pailin close to Nuon Chea's house.

In prison are two notables who were captured by the security forces. One is Ta Mok, who in a leadership tussle in 1997 wrested control from Pol Pot but was forced to flee a year later when he was himself challenged. The other is the infamous Duch, who ran the secret police. Duch has just been taken from his cell to a government hospital for prostate surgery.

Ta Mok and Duch have much to tell and some commentators believe that they will. We will have to wait to see if this will come to pass, hopefully not for too long.

Fawthrop and Jarvis have contributed an extremely well-researched and fascinating book which is a welcome addition to the existing body of literature on contemporary Cambodia. With the date for the Tribunal getting closer, this work will prove to be a most useful resource.

The writer, a Visiting Research Fellow at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies, was Singapore's Ambassador to Cambodia from June 2000 to July 2004 when much of the negotiations for the KR Tribunal took place.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
great book written by two self proclaimed Marxists. 19 Feb. 2012
By Aaron Crandall - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
Helen Jarvis, an Australian academic is a member the Australian Marxist Leninist party and representative of the victims of the Marxist Academics who were the Khmer Rouge. She signed a statement stating: "We too are Marxists and believe that 'the ends justify the means.' In time of revolution and civil war, the most extreme measures will sometimes become necessary and justified. Against the bourgeoisie and their state agencies we don't respect their laws and their fake moral principles."

The Marxist PHDs, attorneys, mathematicians, physics teachers who lead the Khmer Rouge also believed that the ends justified the means and that extreme measures would be necessary. They didn't believe in the bourgeoisie and their state agencies and that is why they overthrew the Bourgeoisie in Cambodia in a class war, and executed the Bourgeoisie.

Helen Jarvis prefers Cambodia in the late 80's when the country was still under the grasp of Marxist Leninist ideology and under the thumbs of the Soviet Union. She says of Cambodia in the late 80's, "During that time, there had been limited access and exposure to outside information, material and goods; the country as a whole had less and, so, society was more equitable," clarifies Jarvis as she describes a city where students and government officials alike travelled by bicycle. "In the days before the emergence of modern technology such as the telephone, the pace was immensely different to what it is now."

I first visited Cambodia in 2000, when there were no atm's, and people had little opportunity to make money. Jarvis seems to prefer complete and widespread poverty, but of course it's easy for her to say as she always had access to all the benefits of her native country, Australia. Ask a Cambodian if they prefer the late 80's to 2012 and I guarantee most would say they prefer to be able to put rice on the table and earn a living. Jarvis prefers a Cambodia where people are deprived of outside information, with limited free enterprise, and all equally poor. Despite all the problems and inequalities that exist today (and perhaps have afflicted Cambodian societies for centuries) I prefer to see kids wearing better clothes on their way to school, businesses flourishing, the exchange of ideas with the outside world, the development of human resources and the flourishing of many individuals which was not a feature of Cambodian society in the 1980's.

Tom Fawthrop is another radical Marxist. He visits Cuba, dreams of a world where we are all equal just like the Khmer Rouge. But if the lay reader knew that Pol Pots ideology was based on the same ideology that Fawthrop & Jarvis believe in it could be a major setback to their dream of worldwide revolutionary communism. This book is dedicated to condemning, not the Marxist ideology of the Khmer Rouge, but to get the average reader to redirect their rage from the evil ideology of Marxism to the United States. They have dedicated their life to their imagined revolutionary future and the United States is the greatest obstacle to the class war they hope will one day pave the way to their Utopia.
6 of 8 people found the following review helpful
Unwritten Story 7 Jan. 2005
By Howard J. De Nike - Published on Amazon.com
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(Howard J. De Nike is co-editor of "Cambodian Genocide" (U. Pa. Press 2000))

This is a book about an unwritten story: Why in twenty five years has no Khmer Rouge faced criminal trial? Before Tom Fawthrop and Helen Jarvis no one has grappled with this question. Perhaps the explanation is so terribly tangled? Perhaps the answers are too embarrassing to the world's major powers? Perhaps the Cambodians themselves are guilty of willful obfuscation?

"Getting Away with Genocide?" is a richly instructive case study of judicial frustration. (One wonders about the question mark in the title. It suggests the authors' hope for even late-arriving prosecutions. But the old legal saw "Justice delayed is justice denied" seems as cogent in Cambodia as anywhere you would care to look.)

As Briton and Australian, Fawthrop and Jarvis, respectively, are well positioned to identify responsibility. More than ten years of the impunity enjoyed by the Khmer Rouge can be traced to diplomatic support provided Pol Pot's regime by the United States. The U.S. pressured the UN to continue recognizing Democratic Kampuchea, both alone and in coalition with allied forces hunkered down in Thailand and sustained by the CIA. Simultaneously, as the authors carefully document, China, a permanent Security Council member, funneled huge sums of money to the Khmer Rouge through its Bangkok embassy.

Meanwhile during this period (1979-1991), the world became increasingly informed of the magnitude of Cambodia's horror. First came fragmentary reports; then a swiftly composed Phnom Penh tribunal in August 1979 made a first attempt at systematically presenting evidence of Khmer Rouge crimes to the public, inside Cambodian and internationally. By 1984, with the debut of the film "The Killing Fields," no one could claim ignorance. (Director Roland Joffe contributes a highly useful Forward to the book.)

In 1991, the Paris Peace Agreement was signed calling for Cambodian elections. This, unhappily, failed to advance perceptibly the cause of prosecuting the Khmer Rouge. Rather, for almost another ten years, the parties, both Cambodian and international, began to wrangle over a series of tribunal proposals. Who should decide upon indictments? How would the tribunal be composed? What would be the time frame for the accusations? And, who should bear the costs? Moves and counter-moves get painstakingly traced, as the authors describe what might at times be considered Prime Minister Hun Sen's faltering enthusiasm for prosecution. Yet they are also sympathetic to a stubborn Cambodian suspicion, given past history, toward outside efforts to control a tribunal in the name of "international credibility."

Today there is some progress toward convening a "mixed tribunal," that is, one with Cambodian and international participation. As developments toward this goal go forward, "Getting Away with Genocide?" is essential reading.
0 of 5 people found the following review helpful
Turned off by errors in "Forward". 19 July 2005
By L. William Swanston - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Hardcover
This is a good book outlining all the difficulties in bringing any of the Khmer Rouge to justice. Having said that however anyone who knows Phnom Penh and Cambodia will be turned off by the factual errors in the Forward. e.g. Phnom Penh is at the juction of three rivers, not two. The Tone Sap, the Mekong and the Balzac. The city is on the Tonle Sap river and the author did not stroll along the Mekong - it was the Tonle Sap. The FCC is not "a rather sweet little restuarant", it is a large three story affair with a large restuarant area and large windows overlooking the Tonle Sap river although the junction with the Mekong can be seen in the distance.The are no sugar palm trees anywhere near the airport. He did not take an evening stroll along the Mekong - it must have been along the Tonle Sap.

There are no city lights twinkling on the other side of the river. Only now is development of that area beginning. The long row of Vietnamese floating homes there were cut loose and floated downstream. There are not now and never were "innumerable little brothels" across the river.
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