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Forever Peace: Forever War Book 2 (Forever War Series) [Kindle Edition]

Joe Haldeman
3.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (46 customer reviews)

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Book Description

In the year 2043, the Ngumi War rages. Limited nuclear strikes have been used on Atlanta and two enemy cities, but the war goes on, fought by 'soldierboys' - indestructible war machines operated by remote control by soldiers hundreds of miles away.

Julian Class is one of these soldiers, and for him war is truly hell. The psychological strain of being jacked-in to his soldierboy - and the genocidal results - are becoming too much to bear. Now he and his companion, Dr Amelia Harding, have made a terrifying scientific discovery, which could literally take the universe back to square one. Except that for Julian, the discovery isn't so much terrifying as tempting...

Winner of the Hugo Award for best novel, 1998
Winner of the Nebula Award for best novel, 1998
Winner of the John W. Campbell Award for best novel, 1998

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    About the Author

    Joe Haldeman was born in Oklahoma in 1943 and studied physics and astronomy before serving as a combat engineer in Vietnam, where he was severely wounded and won a Purple Heart. The Forever War was his first SF novel and it won both the Hugo and Nebula awards, a feat which The Forever Peace repeated. He is also the author of, among others, Mindbridge, All My Sins Remembered, Worlds, Worlds Apart and Worlds Enough and Time.

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    • Format: Kindle Edition
    • File Size: 1059 KB
    • Print Length: 267 pages
    • Publisher: Gateway (14 Nov. 2011)
    • Sold by: Amazon Media EU S.à r.l.
    • Language: English
    • ISBN-10: 185798899X
    • ISBN-13: 978-1857988994
    • ASIN: B0061QGF7O
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    • Average Customer Review: 3.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (46 customer reviews)
    • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #22,712 Paid in Kindle Store (See Top 100 Paid in Kindle Store)
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    6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
    5.0 out of 5 stars High quality 6 Sept. 1999
    By A Customer
    Format:Mass Market Paperback
    Joe Haldeman is so very underrated. There is so much good writing in this book I don't know how he does it. He put a lot of work and heart into this and it shows. This is classic sf and best of all it deals with so many real social and technological issues relevant even right now. The characters are real, not the usual stuck up cardboard cutouts you get in sci-fi. There are very few sci-fi authors who are willing to take on and discuss possible solutions to humanities problems (too risky), rather they just fly off into space centuries from now and say science fixed it or the holocaust reset everything, convenient! Joe Haldeman is not avoiding difficult social issues which make a lot of sci-fi seem dorky and pie in the sky. Better still he uses difficult social issues as he bread and butter. However this does not mean that we do not get giant hi tech mechanical killers and the like, Haldeman brings them on big time and they are very convincing.
    I was put off by some of the reviews here of Forever Peace and I'm glad I ignored them.
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    2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
    3.0 out of 5 stars Forever in hope 5 Feb. 2000
    An enjoyable read if not outstanding. The story kept me interested from start to finish but some how it was missing something, maybe it was the premise of the story, that you can remove part of human nature and still be human that I disagreed with but something was missing. The characterisation was not completely succesful for me, too many characters seemed flat and unconvincing, it may be that the author tried to cover too much ground too quickly but at best this is a good, workman like book that delivers an intersting but not outstanding read. In a couple of weeks time it will be other books and other characters that I remeber and not this book.
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    2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
    2.0 out of 5 stars Extremely disappointing 24 Feb. 1998
    By A Customer
    Readers who have enjoyed other Haldeman books will find "Forever Peace" disappointing. The problems begin with the title, which, no matter what Haldeman's disavowals, inevitably asks us to compare it against his classic "Forever War." And, unlike that book, "Forever Peace" has no likable characters, including that protagonist. It also has a confused and forgettable series of plot threads which Haldeman himself seemingly loses interest in mid-way through the book. Not recommended.
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    3.0 out of 5 stars A major stylistic advance over "The Forever War" 3 April 1999
    By A Customer
    I am surprised by the readers who have compared Haldeman's new novel unfavorably to "The Forever War." That early novel's virtues notwithstanding, Haldeman's prose is much better in the books he wrote in the eighties and nineties, and I find his style one of his greatest virtues. (His plots can be, if anything, a bit too well-oiled and smooth-running. I tend to prefer his meditative works, such as "World Enough and Time," over the more thriller-like ones, such as "Tool of the Trade.")
    Narrative consciousness (what you would call "characterization") is better conveyed by a book's prose than by its plot, and I found the stoicism (and the descent into despair) of the protagonist very strong. Perhaps the final quarter of the novel has a bit too many precisely-timed entrances and exits; "The Long Habit of Living" (aka "Buying Time") is another one of Haldeman's better novels that can perhaps be faulted on these grounds. But I read the novel straight through, pausing to reread paragraphs that seemed especially good, and have no problem commending the novel.
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    3.0 out of 5 stars Forever Peace comes up short 28 Oct. 1997
    By A Customer
    Having been a big fan of Joe Haldeman since reading Forever War as a teenager (and re-reading it many times since), I was really looking forward to Forver Peace. What a let down.
    The trademark Haldeman style is there, as is the theme structured around warfare, but what really missed for me was the story line. The villains in the story were completely unbelievable - I just found it difficult to swallow that the strongest opposition to a plan that would alter the minds of everyone on the planet (killing about 1 in 10 along the way) would come from a collection of a few thousand religious serial killer psychopaths. I kept asking myself if I would be willing to undergo the treatment, and the answer kept coming back "Not a chance!"
    Still, Haldeman's prose is, as always, very readable, and there are some interesting ideas to think about along the way. I'd recommend this one to Haldeman fans only; readers new to Haldeman would be well advised to start elsewhere (the Forver War would be my selection).
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    4.0 out of 5 stars Pretty good 29 Jun. 2015
    Format:Paperback|Verified Purchase
    I read this after reading Forever Free which was truly awful. This is much better so possibly I have been a little generous.

    The basic idea is a very interesting one, I thought the plot was okay and was carried forward quite well. The change of narrative viewpoint, that others have not commented on negatively, did not put me off. Character development was a somewhat weak.

    I think that there was one enormous plot hole, see below, which undercut the ending by quite a bit. That left me feeling rather cheated that this had not been addressed at all.

    Probably I wanted to give this 3 to 3.5 stars but it crept up to 4 stars because of the context in which I read it.


    Everyone needs to have an operation to have the jack inserted. That presumably cannot be done on children whilst they are still growing and developing, so what happens to everyone from birth until, say, 18 who has all of the normal human aggressive tendencies in a pacifistic world. What if the 18 year olds don't want to be operated on?
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    Most Recent Customer Reviews
    3.0 out of 5 stars Three Stars
    Not bat not a patch on the first book
    Published 7 days ago by Stephen Thornton
    2.0 out of 5 stars Not the sequel you expect
    The Forever War is an astonishing book. This is nothing like it. A totally different book. Only for completion of the trilogy should you read this.
    Published 2 months ago by Chris Wright
    5.0 out of 5 stars Fantastic read
    war as seen from a less glorious angle. A unique insight into soldiers and future war. I have read this many times and still enjoy it.
    Published 13 months ago by Rock that horse
    5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent
    The story is bit slow to start, but eventually it grabs you and drags you in without you even noticing!
    Published on 1 Jun. 2013 by Amazon Customer
    4.0 out of 5 stars A fantastic read
    Don't be fooled this is not a sequel to forever war but does use the same technology. A great premise of ending all violence leads to a great story.
    Published on 4 Feb. 2013 by Comet
    4.0 out of 5 stars Poor first half, made up for by the second
    I struggled to get into this book. This is a completely unrelated story to Forever War and Forever Free and it just seems that Haldeman reworked the title for the benefit of sales... Read more
    Published on 3 Oct. 2011 by Mike Andrew Dawson
    2.0 out of 5 stars Please find another plot Joe
    Although this is not a badly written book, if you have read a lot of Mr Haldeman's work, as I have, there are more than one or two recurring ideas in this novel. Read more
    Published on 14 Sept. 2001 by Amazon Customer
    5.0 out of 5 stars Terrific science fiction
    This is one of the best books I have read in some time. I had difficulting setting it aside. I found the 1st to 3rd person changes easy to get accustomed to; they allow the... Read more
    Published on 6 Sept. 1999
    5.0 out of 5 stars Great ideas...
    This book has some great ideas in it, including things which really make you think about some of the possibilities for the future. I recommend it on that basis alone. Read more
    Published on 30 Aug. 1999
    4.0 out of 5 stars Some great ideas...
    .. this was my first book my Joe Haldeman and it had some great ideas in it, I really enjoyed some of the plot twists he put in, they make great conversation pieces. Read more
    Published on 30 Aug. 1999
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