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Forever Peace [Hardcover]

Joe W. Haldeman
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25 Jun 1998

In the year 2043, the Ngumi War rages. Limited nuclear strikes have been used on Atlanta and two enemy cities, but the war goes on, fought by 'soldierboys' -- indestructible war machines operated by remote control by soldiers hundreds of miles away.

Julian Class is one of these soldiers, and for him war is truly hell. The psychological strain of being jacked-in to his soldierboy -- and the genocidal results -- are becoming too much to bear. Now he and his companion, Dr Amelia Harding, have made a terrifying scientific discovery, which could literally take the universe back to square one. Except that for Julian, the discovery isn't so much terrifying as tempting....

--This text refers to the Paperback edition.


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  • Hardcover: 326 pages
  • Publisher: Ace Books (25 Jun 1998)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0441004067
  • ISBN-13: 978-0441004065
  • Product Dimensions: 21.1 x 14.2 x 2.8 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (42 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 1,758,718 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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Joe Haldeman was born in Oklahoma in 1943 and studied physics and astronomy before serving as a combat engineer in Vietnam, where he was severely wounded and won a Purple Heart. The Forever War was his first SF novel and it won both the Hugo and Nebula awards, a feat which The Forever Peace repeated. He is also the author of, among others, Mindbridge, All My Sins Remembered, Worlds, Worlds Apart and Worlds Enough and Time.

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SALES POINTS * Winner of both the Hugo and Nebula Award as best sf novel of the year * A companion novel to The Forever War -- title #1 in the SF Masterworks series * ¿If there was a Fort Knox for science fiction writers who really matter, we¿d have to lock Haldeman up there¿ -- Stephen King --This text refers to the Paperback edition.

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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars High quality 6 Sep 1999
By A Customer
Format:Mass Market Paperback
Joe Haldeman is so very underrated. There is so much good writing in this book I don't know how he does it. He put a lot of work and heart into this and it shows. This is classic sf and best of all it deals with so many real social and technological issues relevant even right now. The characters are real, not the usual stuck up cardboard cutouts you get in sci-fi. There are very few sci-fi authors who are willing to take on and discuss possible solutions to humanities problems (too risky), rather they just fly off into space centuries from now and say science fixed it or the holocaust reset everything, convenient! Joe Haldeman is not avoiding difficult social issues which make a lot of sci-fi seem dorky and pie in the sky. Better still he uses difficult social issues as he bread and butter. However this does not mean that we do not get giant hi tech mechanical killers and the like, Haldeman brings them on big time and they are very convincing.
I was put off by some of the reviews here of Forever Peace and I'm glad I ignored them.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Forever in hope 5 Feb 2000
Format:Paperback
An enjoyable read if not outstanding. The story kept me interested from start to finish but some how it was missing something, maybe it was the premise of the story, that you can remove part of human nature and still be human that I disagreed with but something was missing. The characterisation was not completely succesful for me, too many characters seemed flat and unconvincing, it may be that the author tried to cover too much ground too quickly but at best this is a good, workman like book that delivers an intersting but not outstanding read. In a couple of weeks time it will be other books and other characters that I remeber and not this book.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Extremely disappointing 24 Feb 1998
By A Customer
Format:Hardcover
Readers who have enjoyed other Haldeman books will find "Forever Peace" disappointing. The problems begin with the title, which, no matter what Haldeman's disavowals, inevitably asks us to compare it against his classic "Forever War." And, unlike that book, "Forever Peace" has no likable characters, including that protagonist. It also has a confused and forgettable series of plot threads which Haldeman himself seemingly loses interest in mid-way through the book. Not recommended.
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3.0 out of 5 stars A major stylistic advance over "The Forever War" 3 April 1999
By A Customer
Format:Hardcover
I am surprised by the readers who have compared Haldeman's new novel unfavorably to "The Forever War." That early novel's virtues notwithstanding, Haldeman's prose is much better in the books he wrote in the eighties and nineties, and I find his style one of his greatest virtues. (His plots can be, if anything, a bit too well-oiled and smooth-running. I tend to prefer his meditative works, such as "World Enough and Time," over the more thriller-like ones, such as "Tool of the Trade.")
Narrative consciousness (what you would call "characterization") is better conveyed by a book's prose than by its plot, and I found the stoicism (and the descent into despair) of the protagonist very strong. Perhaps the final quarter of the novel has a bit too many precisely-timed entrances and exits; "The Long Habit of Living" (aka "Buying Time") is another one of Haldeman's better novels that can perhaps be faulted on these grounds. But I read the novel straight through, pausing to reread paragraphs that seemed especially good, and have no problem commending the novel.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Forever Peace comes up short 28 Oct 1997
By A Customer
Format:Hardcover
Having been a big fan of Joe Haldeman since reading Forever War as a teenager (and re-reading it many times since), I was really looking forward to Forver Peace. What a let down.
The trademark Haldeman style is there, as is the theme structured around warfare, but what really missed for me was the story line. The villains in the story were completely unbelievable - I just found it difficult to swallow that the strongest opposition to a plan that would alter the minds of everyone on the planet (killing about 1 in 10 along the way) would come from a collection of a few thousand religious serial killer psychopaths. I kept asking myself if I would be willing to undergo the treatment, and the answer kept coming back "Not a chance!"
Still, Haldeman's prose is, as always, very readable, and there are some interesting ideas to think about along the way. I'd recommend this one to Haldeman fans only; readers new to Haldeman would be well advised to start elsewhere (the Forver War would be my selection).
Steve.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Interesting ideas, but poor narrative 15 Oct 1998
By A Customer
Format:Hardcover
The ideas in FOREVER PEACE were interesting, and thought provoking. I was surprised to find myself questioning whether removing the violent impulses from people, changing human nature was really the right thing to do. Pondering this kept me involved with the book until the end.
On the other hand, I thought the narrative stunk. One of the cardinal rules of writing, I always thought, was never to change point of view in the middle of the story. And yet Haldeman does this frequently. Most of the story is narrated in the first person. But whenever the plot tension started to build, and I started to get curious, it would switch into 3rd person, and this omniscient narrator would explain just what was going on, killing any sense of tension that existed. He would tell what the bad guys happened to be doing at that moment rather than waiting for the main character to find out. I thought this was a cop-out and spoiled the pacing of the book completely.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent
The story is bit slow to start, but eventually it grabs you and drags you in without you even noticing!
Published 14 months ago by Amazon Customer
4.0 out of 5 stars A fantastic read
Don't be fooled this is not a sequel to forever war but does use the same technology. A great premise of ending all violence leads to a great story.
Published 18 months ago by Comet
4.0 out of 5 stars Poor first half, made up for by the second
I struggled to get into this book. This is a completely unrelated story to Forever War and Forever Free and it just seems that Haldeman reworked the title for the benefit of sales... Read more
Published on 3 Oct 2011 by Mike Andrew Dawson
2.0 out of 5 stars Please find another plot Joe
Although this is not a badly written book, if you have read a lot of Mr Haldeman's work, as I have, there are more than one or two recurring ideas in this novel. Read more
Published on 14 Sep 2001 by Amazon Customer
5.0 out of 5 stars Terrific science fiction
This is one of the best books I have read in some time. I had difficulting setting it aside. I found the 1st to 3rd person changes easy to get accustomed to; they allow the... Read more
Published on 6 Sep 1999
5.0 out of 5 stars Great ideas...
This book has some great ideas in it, including things which really make you think about some of the possibilities for the future. I recommend it on that basis alone. Read more
Published on 30 Aug 1999
4.0 out of 5 stars Some great ideas...
.. this was my first book my Joe Haldeman and it had some great ideas in it, I really enjoyed some of the plot twists he put in, they make great conversation pieces. Read more
Published on 30 Aug 1999
1.0 out of 5 stars BORING!
I LOVE to read but...the writing was less than impressive AND it was so boring I couln't stand it long enough to finish it (A rarity for me!).
Published on 30 Aug 1999
1.0 out of 5 stars It had to happen -
I found a book by Joe Haldeman that I didn't like, and I REALLY didn't like it, for several reasons:
The narrative switches back and forth from first to third person. Read more
Published on 24 Aug 1999
2.0 out of 5 stars blah!
A Hugo that really disappoints me. Too much "stream of consciousness," messy point-of-view (either you write in first person or you don't), bland plot,... Read more
Published on 19 Aug 1999
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