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Forever & Counting [Import]

Hot Water Music Audio CD
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  • Audio CD (25 Feb 2002)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Import
  • Label: Defan
  • ASIN: B0000631M9
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (3 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 602,527 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Raw, powerful and emotional 29 Jun 2003
Format:Audio CD
Wow, this has got to be one of my most listened to albums that i own.The whole album is superb, HWM have an exellent way of texturing their instruments together which often leaves me thinking "how the hell did they come up with such original and heart pounding music?" . Just listen to the songs closely and you start to really get into them, i always find myself screaming along to the songs.
The great thing about HWM is that they play for themselves and make the most honest and heartfelt music you'll ever hear. There's really too much to say, the musical skill involved, the way the songs make you feel....a band keeping it real for sure.
Some of my favourite tracks have to be 'Just don't say you lost it' which perfectly illustrates musical skill with raw emotion. The guitars and bass in that song work so well, a very very good riff and a very very good song. '3 Summers strong' is just amazing, man you feel that emotion so strongly....RAW!!!
Perhaps this album might take a few listens to get into if you've not heard much HWM but when it clicks you'll understand.
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5.0 out of 5 stars HWM - the best band in the world? 11 Sep 2001
Format:Audio CD
This is by far the most difficult, yet most ultimately rewarding Hot Water Music album. It oozes punk spirit, emo sincerity and hardcore power. Just listen to 'Just Don't Say You Lost It' and feel your heart swell, or 'Better Sense' which is truly magnificent. Perfect.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Pure, unadulterated emotionally obvious music. 1 Jun 2001
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Format:Audio CD
There is so much I can say in one box about this album. I can start by saying- that in a world where we count originality as something similar to that of nu-metal, or the incredably bad Papa Roach, Hot Water Music really shine through. With their interpretation of emotional hardcore music blasting at the seems, they never hence to enthral even someone who counted Papa Roach as one of their favourite bands. Emo needs to be noticed, and perhaps Hot Water Music are the kind of band who really will break through the underground scene. After all, their new album is on Epitaph.
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12 of 13 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars a sonical bombastination of grandiostic proportions 16 Aug 2001
By Orphelius Q. Witherspoon - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
I have a confession to make: I don't care about an artist's technical wizardry. I'll take good music in any form it comes. In this case, good music has come in the form of a surgically precise blend of emo and hardcore.
From the very outset of "Translocation," you can tell this is something different. At the same time, you can't stop nodding your head. Like in a 6th grade sex-education video, you will quickly find yourself asking, "What's happening to my body?" Such is the power of Hot Water Music. The production is so bare-bones, the vocals so unpolished that by the time you get to "Manual", you'll start to feel like you're part of the band.
Though it's tough to describe their sound in writing, there are some easily recognized Hot Water Music trademarks. First, the drummer and bassist are actually jazz-trained musicians. In between pounding, emo-drenched choruses, the rhythm section catches you off-guard with beats that you're not going to find in any other punk band.
Vocally, "Forever and Counting" is so sloppy that I often felt the urge to wipe the spit off the faces of these guys. But therein lies the charm. You'll also notice the incessant use of vocal harmonies that are a half-step off, just begging to be resolved.
Hot Water Music has put out a lot of other releases, but in my mind, none of them has ever recaptured the raw power displayed here in Forever and Counting. If you have any interest in punk at all, this is essential. One of my top five favorite albums.
8 of 8 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Best Hot Water Music CD ever! 5 Mar 2003
By "hwmfan" - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
I have to disagree with the last review, even though they have put out a lot of CDs, its only because they are the most hard working bands in the biz. They are always touring non-stop and pumping out incredable CDs. Now then, back to the CD, the opener "Translocation" is probably the best song to start off with when you pop it into your CD player ( The only other one better is "220 years"). The songs hits a place in your spirit, all you wanna do is mosh. And thats what is so great about this CD, each song flows perfectly, almost as well as "Moonpies for Misfits". Finally, when the best song ever comes into play, "Manual" ( In fact this is probably one of the best songs they perform live, you really feel the emotion comming off the guitars and the vocals.) the song itself feels like it lasts "forever", HWM's songs put you into some proverbial emocore trance like no other band can, and this is one of them. Next off is "Minno", trully a great harmonic song, perfect harmonizing and drumming. And how can I forget the double bass drumming on "Man the Change"!? Shew just buy this CD even if you've never heard of them before, might take time to get used to them, but trust me, they'll be your favorite band in no time.
4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars The Best of HWM's early (first four) studio releases. 8 Nov 2004
By Campbell Roark - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
It pulls no punches. Loud, bulldog voiced anthems of hope, overcoming, endurance, ressurection, defiance, agony, power and dissent. Some of the most honest and raw stuff you will hear. No frills. Nothing unnecessary. Just business as usual as one of the world's best bands streamlined their act, back in '97. No navel-gazing, no brooding. The vocal dymanic between Chuck Ragan and Chris Wollard is perfected on this Disc: The way they work their call/response/shouting/singing... it's like they reinvent the wheel. Songs that change and shift. Songs that crash and tear. Songs that make you shout along. NO BAD TRACKS! Precision thundering drums, power chords that play off each other to build higher like a cathedral's towers- and (a real rarity) melodic, propulsive bass-playing. All you cold ask for. Get this. And pick up the rest too! Technically, this would be their third, though in all honesty it's number 2 for me, as I start counting with "Fuel for the Hate Game." Their first good, if not great, release (4 stars). "Finding The Rhythms," their true first, is pretty damn awful. So you have permission to skip, but only for that one CD.

...Great beards too. takes me back.
8 of 10 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Danish Dynamite 5 April 2000
By Jasper Rosenberg - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
The first time I saw Hot Water Music, Chuck threw a 1 1/2 ounce whiskey bottle off the stage and split my forehead open. This album reminds me of that show; it gives me a headache and makes me want to punch that guy in the teeth.
5 of 6 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Pretty friggin good 6 Dec 2003
By Sannah Zay - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD|Verified Purchase
This album took about 3 listens, and I was hooked. I'm definitely going to look into getting more from this band.
To describe their music, take the best elements of Samiam, Fugazi and Fuel (Fuel being the east bay punk band, not the lame pop band). There you have Hot Water Music. If I were in a band, this is the music I would strive to play.
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