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Finite and Infinite Games [Mass Market Paperback]

James P. Carse
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1 Dec 1992
An extraordinary book that will dramatically change the way you experience life.
Finite games are the familiar contests of everyday life, the games we play in business and politics, in the bedroom and on the battlefied -- games with winners and losers, a beginning and an end. Infinite games are more mysterious -- and ultimately more rewarding. They are unscripted and unpredictable; they are the source of true freedom.
In this elegant and compelling work, James Carse explores what these games mean, and what they can mean to you. He offers stunning new insights into the nature of property and power, of culture and community, of sexuality and self-discovery, opening the door to a world of infinite delight and possibility.
"An extraordinary little book . . . a wise and intimate companion, an elegant reminder of the real."
-- Brain/Mind Bulletin

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  • Mass Market Paperback: 192 pages
  • Publisher: Ballantine Books Inc.; 1st Ballantine Books Ed edition (1 Dec 1992)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0345341848
  • ISBN-13: 978-0345341846
  • Product Dimensions: 17.5 x 10.8 x 1.5 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (13 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 622,902 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
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Judging by the diversity of reviews, people out there tend to be polarised by this book Finite and Infinite Games (FIG). After reading it, I can completely understand why.

Reasons to hate FIG:

Many of the points and especially the distinctions Carse makes seem to exist on a purely grammatical level. Never mind grammar; sometimes the typeface alone suffices for Carse to make bold with meaning (i.e. italics). "Whoever must play, cannot play."

Carse zooms off on many topical flights of fancy that seem more appropriate for New-Agey texts, such as sex, politics and environmentalism. This book takes 180 pages but the essence of it could have been squeezed into about 80. Maybe even a half dozen pages of diagrams or charts would have sufficed.

FIGs structure apparently apes a classic text by Ludwig Wittgenstein, the twentieth century's most significant philosopher. In his 'early' phase, Wittgenstein wrote the Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus in a numerically-structured fashion, reasoning from axiom to implications. It was one of the most significant works of the time. Carse seems to have Wittgenstein in mind as a model, as he mentions him overtly (p. 131) and contradicts him covertly (p. 108, "A world is not all that is the case..."). For any philosopher to compare himself to Wittgenstein in this way is an embarrassment, unless he has won the Nobel Prize or equivalent.

The style is dense and near aphoristic. That's fine if you are Nietzsche or Pascal and you make your meaning plainer elsewhere. But FIG is all we have to inform and guide us on Carse's thought. We need more; more context, more proof of assumptions, more definitions. None is forthcoming.
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5.0 out of 5 stars For the select few. 17 July 2005
This book is one of those that polarises peoples opinions. Some find it amateur in content, boring or even pointless but then others like myself glean so much from it, and that depends on starting from the right point and following the progressive trail that the author takes us on. It can be very abstract at times and you may have expected some fun because it says "games" in the title, but here are some very good insights into the the inevitability of mankind playing itself through from start to finish. It's a tool, a lexicon and so remains a sort of kaleidoscopic reference point on life. I don't wish to discredit the authors effort in any way as I have gained far too much from it for me to merit an attack.
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5.0 out of 5 stars A unique bit of philosophy 14 April 2014
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There are more than enough books out there on 'play', most of them peddling suspect fashionable vagaries about a concept which they choose not to define. In contrast, Carse knows exactly what he is talking about, and his application of play theory to the law, for example, is precise and incisive.
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5.0 out of 5 stars A very stimulating must-read. 8 April 2014
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Amazing. An incredibly thought-provoking book. I think it's going to take several readings to really grasp the depth of the ideas laid out here and I think that the effort will be well worthwhile.
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5.0 out of 5 stars SHOULD BE REQUIRED READING FOR THE PLANET 19 Sep 1997
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This is one of the most interesting books I have ever read. I spent the evening looking through my book collection to find my copy of Infinite and Finite Games. The ideas seem simple, but are complex. It is one of those book whose concepts stay in your mind long after you have finished reading the book. I remeber right after I finished the book for the first time, years ago, I went to a bio-diversity. I remember thinking that most of the species on the planet are playing an infinte game. That is they are playing in order to keep playing. We are the only species who plays the game soley to win. That is our tragic flaw. One species playing only to win can destroy life on an entire planet.
I hope we learn the most important thing is to learn to play infinite games--to learn to play in order to keep playing. If we don't learn this simple lesson, life here will, of course, not survive.
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2 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A Gem 8 Jan 2004
One of those books that says different things, different ways each time you pick it up. It may seem pretentious, this book, but it is like a Zen koan. Break through it and you can be in another dimension. Easy to see why he was chosen by his students as an outstanding prof.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Great Idea, terrible delivery 28 Mar 2011
By james
Format:Mass Market Paperback
This book had so much potential, and it is very frustrating how much it failed to deliver. There is a place for the pointlessly abstract; University... But to the lay audience, some will be needlessly confused, and others will make this into a holy text, one which they won't entirely understand but still proclaim their belief in.

As an example, the sections that parrot Heidegger take the worst elements of Heidegger's language and none of his subtleness of thought.

The notion of an infinite/finite game is one with a long history (The Stoics!) but Carse does try and place it in a more formalised discussion. Its a pity he doesn't do a better job of explaining this clearly and instead hides behind language. Wittgenstein would hate this book.
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