Now people... that this is an awesome album is not in question, but let's not go bashing on the Posies' other work. Yes, their later albums are more polished, but they are still raw compared to most of today's music. Production, if not overused, is not always a bad thing, and the Posies have used it about at well as anyone I know of. Their last record, Success, is the strongest dose of the bittersweet I've ever heard, and all their music, for that matter, has a heart-rending beauty that I've never heard anyone else duplicate. So let's just have a little respect for two of history's best songwriters, because I have a feeling that they themselves would say their later work evolved for the better.