As far as the pants go they seem to be made well and offer all you could want from a pair of pants, but they are so undersized it's unbelievable. My waist size is 40-42 so I went for the 42-44" and I can hardly get them on they are so small. Given that they don't do a larger size I can't actually buy any more, so these were a complete waste of money. For people with a smaller waist, I'd struggle to say what size to get, do you go one size bigger, or 2 or 3? Who knows which size is going to fit. I wouldn't bother with these.