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51 of 52 people found the following review helpful
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Firstly, this is not necessarily an easy book for those who have no experience of meditation or contemplation - I have been practising Taoist water method meditation and chi gung for some years. The Dzogchen path is quite beyond fixed concepts and as such it can (much like the essence of Taoism) be hard to 'get a grip' on. Nevertheless, Namkhai Norbu's humour and clarity shine through in this book and he actually communicates something quite indefinable in this work. For those who are serious about pursuing greater clarity and awareness, buy this book, let go of your intellect, read it, and you will see what I mean. I for one intend to study personally with Namkhai Norbu at the earliest opportunity. A gem.
0 of 2 people found the following review helpful
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The natural state (rigpa), need not be complicated, it requires no methods nor practices and is spontaeneously complete without effort of any kind... 'this' is it. when aware aware, when unaware unaware, just in your natural state... making an effort, not making an effort, how could you not be in your natural state, you were born in it, you will die in it. naturally so.
why worry about annihilation of self and annihilation of buddha nature (the great icchantika), it would be perfectly natural to ask the Truth, for a new self, a new nature. once one has come near to the end, one finds oneself back at the begging, but one has changed.
theres nothing at all to worry about, this normal mind is the way, ones everyday thought is the way, ones everyday life is perfectly enlightened. why worry about passions and defilements... you are already perfect... how could you not remain in a natural state? impossible.
you have already arrived, you always were perfect. naturally so. this is the teaching of Dzogpa Chenpo, where even defilements are tools for growth.
best wishes, Tom.
why worry about annihilation of self and annihilation of buddha nature (the great icchantika), it would be perfectly natural to ask the Truth, for a new self, a new nature. once one has come near to the end, one finds oneself back at the begging, but one has changed.
theres nothing at all to worry about, this normal mind is the way, ones everyday thought is the way, ones everyday life is perfectly enlightened. why worry about passions and defilements... you are already perfect... how could you not remain in a natural state? impossible.
you have already arrived, you always were perfect. naturally so. this is the teaching of Dzogpa Chenpo, where even defilements are tools for growth.
best wishes, Tom.
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18 of 18 people found the following review helpful
Wisdom From A Master
10 Jan 2004
Format:Paperback
As a newcomer to Dzogchen I find this book invaluable. Norbu Rinpoche articulates the ineffable. His emphasis on going beyond the limitations of any particular dogma or tradition is also so refreshing and, in my experience, unusual that I knew I was reading the words of a master. The book is inspiring. It made me want to put its teachings into practice. It's also highly practical and written to be completely clear. Norbu Rinpoche's unadorned, down-to-earth way of communicating sublime and subtle concepts is wonderful. His reputation is superb and this book is a good example of why he is so highly regarded as a master teacher. I cannot recommend it highly enough. It's just great.
27 of 32 people found the following review helpful
Complex simplicity
5 Sep 2004
Format:Paperback
I dunno. Maybe it is the innate complexity of the subject matter, maybe something is lost in translation from Tibetan to Italian and then to English, maybe its impossible to treat such a profound topic in 130 pages, or maybe it is just me -- but after reading this book I don't feel I know much more about Dzogchen than I did before.
Although this is the first book I have read about Dzogchen, over the last 17 years I have read hundreds of works on Buddhism (mostly Theravada and Zen but also some Tantra) and practiced in several monasteries in America and Japan. So I feel I should have gotten more out of this than I did.
The author is clearly sincere and knowledgeable about his topic, and the topic itself seemingly has much to offer, but I found this volume unable to answer the simple beginner's question: "what is Dzogchen?" The language seems highly ambiguous and contradictory in many places, the organization and presentation of the material is unclear, and the book is peppered with images that are not discussed and seemingly have no relationship to the text.
The book is not a total disaster. The author has some success in showing how Dzogchen differs from other aspects of Buddhism, and spends some time discussing "the base" or true nature of mind. But many more questions are raised than answered, at least in my mind. He also emphasizes the need for a teacher and direct experience. So maybe its simply that Dzogchen is too complex to be discussed in such a short, introductory format. At least I can say this book raised my interest, and I'll be seeking out more answers on this abstruse but fascinating corner of Buddhism.
Although this is the first book I have read about Dzogchen, over the last 17 years I have read hundreds of works on Buddhism (mostly Theravada and Zen but also some Tantra) and practiced in several monasteries in America and Japan. So I feel I should have gotten more out of this than I did.
The author is clearly sincere and knowledgeable about his topic, and the topic itself seemingly has much to offer, but I found this volume unable to answer the simple beginner's question: "what is Dzogchen?" The language seems highly ambiguous and contradictory in many places, the organization and presentation of the material is unclear, and the book is peppered with images that are not discussed and seemingly have no relationship to the text.
The book is not a total disaster. The author has some success in showing how Dzogchen differs from other aspects of Buddhism, and spends some time discussing "the base" or true nature of mind. But many more questions are raised than answered, at least in my mind. He also emphasizes the need for a teacher and direct experience. So maybe its simply that Dzogchen is too complex to be discussed in such a short, introductory format. At least I can say this book raised my interest, and I'll be seeking out more answers on this abstruse but fascinating corner of Buddhism.
15 of 19 people found the following review helpful
Introductory text
28 Nov 2004
Format:Paperback
This is one of the first books I had read on Dzogchen. I think it's a nice introduction and it includes some key concepts, but it's not as good as some of the author's other works--especially the advanced book entitled "The Supreme Source" which is most excellent. I also prefer "The Mirror" and "The Cycle of Day and Night." Norbu is, I think, recognized as one of today's Dzogchen Masters. However, this short book simply cannot and does not do the subject justice. I would also recommend the view of Tulku Urgyen and his sons Drubwang Tsokni and Chokyi Nyima who have published a number of fine Dzogchen works.
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