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Dvorak: Symphonies Nos. 8 & 9, From the New World [Hybrid SACD, SACD]

A. Dvorak, BFO, Conrad Fischer Audio CD
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  • Orchestra: Budapest Festival Orchestra
  • Conductor: Ivan Fischer
  • Composer: Antonín Dvorák
  • Audio CD (26 May 2003)
  • Please Note: Requires SACD-compatible hardware
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Hybrid SACD, SACD
  • Label: Philips
  • ASIN: B000079BGE
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (1 customer review)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 342,507 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

1. 1. Adagio - Allegro molto
2. 2. Largo
3. 3. Scherzo (Molto vivace)
4. 4. Allegro con fuoco
5. 1. Allegro con brio
6. 2. Adagio
7. 3. Allegretto grazioso - Molto vivace
8. 4. Allegro ma non troppo
9. 1. Adagio - Allegro molto
10. 2. Largo
11. 3. Scherzo (Molto vivace)
12. 4. Allegro con fuoco
13. 1. Allegro con brio
14. 2. Adagio
15. 3. Allegretto grazioso - Molto vivace
16. 4. Allegro ma non troppo
17. 1. Adagio - Allegro molto
18. 2. Largo
19. 3. Scherzo (Molto vivace)
20. 4. Allegro con fuoco
See all 24 tracks on this disc

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5.0 out of 5 stars An absolutely wonderful disc, all round. 21 Nov 2004
Format:Audio CD
This is a wonderful record all round, one of the finest ever performances of both works, allied to a demonstration-class recording as natural as it is stunning.

Starting, as the disc does, with the ninth, I initially tried to list all the moments, both interpretative and sonic that blew me away, but the list was just way too long. I can do best by comparing it to my favourites of the past.

Performances first. My first recording of the 9th was Toscanini's old orchestra, the NBC SO, renamed the Symphony of the Air: a live, conductor less recording literally dripping with emotion. Then, like most who grew up in the sixties, the Kertesz became the new benchmark for me. It has wholeness and a momentum, and an internal logic driven by conductor as well as composer which never fails to grip. It also has an amazing feeling of fresh inspiration, of being caught "on the wing". Then came Kubelik, who made the piece seem fresh as a daisy, Karajan who made it feel a truly big-picture symphonic work, Donhanyi in the earliest days of cd, who gave the work a gentle bath of radiance, and so on, down to a recent favourite, a Delos recording with the New Jersey S. O. and Czech born Zdenek Macal.

So does Fischer surpass these? Well, he doesn't try to, and that's a great thing in some ways. This is a version with possibly more unadulterated Dvorak than anyone else's. Fischer trusts everything Dvorak wrote, for damned good reason, and the result is a reading that is straightforward in the best sense, in that it is straight as a die, with a feeling of absolute honesty. In the final analysis, it may not have the last half-ounce of Kertesz's rare blend of internal logic and instinctiveness or Kubelik's vernal freshness, but it has the best features of all versions and is a splendid achievement of interpretative synthesis and integrity.

The performance of the eighth is, if anything, even better. This is a harder work to present persuasively than the 9th, because it's so filled with ebb and flow, major to minor contrast and instrumental incident. Its sheer exuberance of ideas seems to get in the way of cohesiveness for some conductors (Jarvi, for instance).

One who brought it off, for me at least, was Barbirolli with the Halle (currently available at super budget HMV classics price, coupled with Tortelier's burnished reading of the cello concerto: surely one of the all time great bargains). It's a reading of power and energy but allied to warmth and lyricism. Szell came close equally long ago, and is available on SACD, but I haven't heard the SACD version and the original wasn't renowned for great sound. Kertesz and Kubelik are both terrific, Rowicki very good (emphasising the "spring symphony" feel) and Colin Davis did a marvellous reading for Philips (currently available with the 7th & 9th on a bargain twofer). As I remember it, it was very lyrical, nicely sprung and very straight. The Jarvi version has always received high marks from the Penguin and the Good CD guides, but I've never really been persuaded by it: it hangs a bit too loose to me, and falls for the trap of highlighting incident and ignoring the demands which an unusual structure place on symphonic cogency. Paradoxically I also thought the recording a bit too "big" to allow enough light and detail on some of those incidents.

Fischer does not ignore those demands of incident and cogency. Yes, all the incidents are richly presented: e.g. the trumpet and trombones just before the first movement coda, the trumpet and flute offsetting each other in the last movement, - they're all there, (and how !!!) but there's also a strength and a direction which doesn't fuss over these incidents, lovely though they are, but keeps a beautiful tread in both ebb and flow. The writing for all instruments is varied and well shared around the orchestra and Fischer and his players present all that variation and sharing within a strong forward momentum.

In both works they are helped by superb sound. This is an integrated, clean, fresh but warm and rich sound in which, like the interpretation, all is natural. The orchestra is clearly raked in height as it would be in most concert halls, and instruments are always in their right and proper place. When they play supporting roles, they are quiet but present. When they play major roles, they come from their places with real presence. The soundstage is splendidly integrated too. I won't even use the word (stereo) separation here. Yes, its higher strings on the left, lower on the right and so on, but they combine to present a living canvass, never merely a left and right picture. Brass, in particular, is always bold and clear and never brazen or forced.

Referring back to the Macal recording of the 9th on Delos, a 20 bit Virtual Reality Dolby surround recording, the sound there is sumptuous and spectacular but not quite as natural sounding (I really must find a new adjective soon) as this new disc.

There are some minor losses in this naturalness. The last appearance of the sotto strings in the last minute of the ninth doesn't have that lovely "extra" lift that Kertesz gives them before the brass conclude and in the eighth, the strings (again) don't have the almost autumnal throb which Barbirolli gave them in the slow movement to set against their springtime sprightliness in the first, but it depends on what kind of sound you prefer I guess, - all I can say is that everything in the new disc sounds clean, warm, proper proportioned, in complete internal harmony and yes, at the risk of repeating myself ad nauseam, natural. But unlike some clean sounding SACDs I've heard, it's never, ever sonically bland or boring.

With this recording, Philips, working with DSD, throws the bloody-minded perversity of their Universal Classics stable mates who persist with PCM (and dodgy transfers) into very stark relief.

Anyone who loves these works will want to have more than one version. I try and keep the number of New Worlds I have at any one time down to three. But there is no way that this disc could not figure in a self-respecting Dvorak collection. Whatever other versions you have, get the Fischer. You won't regret it. So far, my orchestral disc of the year.

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22 of 22 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Best recorded SACD I have heard - superb! 23 April 2004
By Alexander Leach - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
It's not often I give 5 stars, so let me tell you why.

I have had the normal stereo CD for a few years and concur with nearly all reviewers that this is a quite outstanding version of the Eighth, played with superb style, power and elegance by the Budapest FO under Fischer.

The Ninth is also excellent - not a first choice for me, but with so many fine versions of these symphonies from Talich, Kubelik, Szell, Karajan, Bernstein, Walter and others, there can't really be a top choice.

What sets this SACD apart (and the reason I passed on the original CD and bought this new format) is the quite superb DSD 5 channel recording it enjoys, as the original recording was actually made in multi-channel format.

I have played this CD to several people who might naturally be cynical about this new format, but all were stunned by the depth, range and realism of the soundstage. The sonority of string tone, the clarity and placement of wind solos, the sheer panoply of orchestral sound are presented to the listener in a way I have never heard other than in a fine concert hall. This SACD genuinely sounds like the orchestra are laid before you, playing these two great works. Phenomenal, there's no other word for it.

Great performances, wonderful sound, on a hybrid SACD that will play on normal equipment like my car CD changer. Buying this disc is a no-brainer, really!

5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars TIGHT 4 Sep 2007
By GEORGE RANNIE - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
Ivan Fischer and the Budapest Festival Orchestra, in this recording, certainly give splendid performances of Dvorak Symphony #9 in E minor (the New World) and #8 in G major. The sheer sound of the recording (SACD recording) is marvelous; it is so rich and full. I love the way that Fischer and the Budapest Orchestra interpret these very famous symphonic works by Dvorak. Gone is the extreme sentimentality that is usually attached to especially the 9th Symphony. Instead we are given a very tight and straightforward reading. Have no fear, those famous melodies (especially the "Largo" movement of the 9th) are very much in evidence and are played beautifully; however, those melodies no longer sound like a funeral dirge but to me they sound more like what I imagine Dvorak intended--just recreations of some lovely American "folk tunes". Anyway, although I've heard these two symphonies by Dvorak many times, it was as if I was hearing them for the first time. Ivan Fischer and the Budapest Festival Orchestra's approach is so very wonderfully fresh!
4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Fine Dvorak 8 May 2009
By William Dodd - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD|Amazon Verified Purchase
The bad news is that this disc has been discontinued by Universal Classics. The good news is that I'm told it has been licensed to Channel Classics, Fischer's current home, for a Hybrid SACD release later this year. I have the original, and it is a fine performance, beautifully recorded---maybe a tad too much "hall" in the multi-channel mix, but you get used to that quickly.

A fabulous disc-- and it will be again.
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