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Duel 7: Sopwith Camel vs Fokker Dr I: Western Front 1917-18 (Duel) [Paperback]

Jon Guttman , Harry Dempsey
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  • Paperback: 80 pages
  • Publisher: Osprey Publishing (10 Mar 2008)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 1846032938
  • ISBN-13: 978-1846032936
  • Product Dimensions: 18.5 x 0.8 x 24.8 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (1 customer review)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 329,925 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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"In one of the book's best sections, Guttman compares the training and operational capabilities of British and German pilots. It's a topic too seldom addressed, especially in WWI literature, since manned flight was barely out of its infancy at that point. With more than 50 photos plus a dozen or more excellent profiles, cockpit views and action scenes, "Sopwith Camel vs Fokker Dr I" maintains the Osprey series' visual appeal. Its 80 pages represent a taut, well-conceived treatment of a topic that could easily fill three times that volume." -Barrett Tillman, "Aviation History "(May 2009)
.."."Sopwith Camel vs Fokker Dr I" describes the challenges of establishing aerial superiority over the trenches in 1917... the two aircraft were a good match for one another, which makes them an excellent subject for the Duel Series... [A] great companion to other titles detailing the specific aircraft and can become an important part of any aviation reference library." -Chris Banyai-Riepl, "Int

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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
Format:Paperback
This is one of a series of Osprey Duel short books.Attributes of two comparable machnes are presented in a way that highlights their differences in a potential dogfight.The design and developement of the two aircraft comes first,showing us that the Triplane,although superficially archaic,featured an advanced welded,tubular steel fuselage.It was the first aircraft to feature a box-section wing spar,which produced such a strong wing that struts and bracing wires were not required.The Sopwith Camel is such a well known aircraft,it is diffcult to consider it afresh.Jon Guttman shows us it is such an extreme shape with all the weight so far forward,resulting in a most unstable aircraft,whch is why it was the deadliest scout of the War.

We get some nice colour profiles and fascinating cockpit interiors,with all the dials,levers and switches labeled.What strikes the reader is how crude and simple the Fokker cockpit is compared to the much more busy,Sopwith interior.

The guns and engines are compared,highlighting the strange torque-effects produced with these rotary power units.With these engines the whole unit rotates on an axis,like a vast heavy gyroscope,the camel wanting to climb in a left turn and dive in a right.The controls were so sensitive,that too sharp a turn could lead to a deadly spin.This book shows how good pilots were able to use these eccentricities to their advantage.

We get profiles of pilots of both machines,showing how arcraft were improved,and even re-engined in the field,also how German production quality was affected by War shortages.On the whole this is a fascinating fact-filled but easy to understand,well illustrated book.
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12 of 12 people found the following review helpful
The Classic Aerial Duel 2 Sep 2008
By R. A Forczyk - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback
The aerial battles between the British Sopwith Camel and the German Fokker Dr I triplane fighters are some of the most iconic images of the First World War - in large part due to the role played by Baron Manfred von Richtofen (the `Red Baron') - but they were in fact, only a very brief moment in a long struggle for aerial supremacy over the trenches of northwest Europe. In Osprey's Sopwith Camel vs Fokker Dr I, author Jon Guttman lays out the dramatic battles between these two well-known adversaries during the period September 1917 and May 1918. As the author notes, although the two aircraft were relatively evenly matched, the Germans often had the edge in pilot quality and experience, but the Camels had the numbers. By May 1918, the Fokker Dr I was being phased out and replaced by the superior Fokker D VIIs and the triplanes moment in history had passed, while the Camel soldiered on until Armistice Day. Overall, this volume is well put-together, with a solid narrative and excellent graphics. However, readers may notice a certain amount of overlap and redundancy with other Osprey aviation titles in the Aircraft of the Aces and Aviation Elite Units series.

In the introduction, the author begins by noting that, "both rotary-engined fighters, the Sopwith Camel and the Fokker Dr I triplane were relatively slow for their time, but were regarded as the most maneuverable machines to achieve production during the conflict." The author goes through the design and development of each aircraft and there are nice 3-view color plates of each aircraft. Interestingly, the two pre-production Fokker F Is delivered to the front were actually better-built than the production series D I models, which is certainly rare in the history of weapons development. Some of these information has been presented in other Osprey volumes, particularly about the production defects that plagued the Dr I, but they are fundamental to understanding the limitations of this fighter. The section on Technical Specifications is a bit dry, but effective and includes cockpit views of both aircraft. While the Germans only built 320 Fokker Dr I triplanes, the British built 5,695 Camels, which certainly put the British fighter in a different league by default. Although the Dr I was also hindered by problems with an unreliable engine and the engine oil lubricants used, the author concludes that, "when it came to maneuverability, the Dr I held a slight edge..." The section on the Strategic Situation is better than many aviation titles, which skim over the operational situation and dive straight into the fighter combat. Here, the author provides a map showing the location of each sides' main fighter bases and the numbers of fighters each side actually had deployed in the spring of 1918. For the main event (the Kaiserschlact), the Brits had 336 Camels versus 171 Fokker Dr Is, nearly a 2-1 edge for the Royal Air Force.

The section on combatants provides detailed backgrounds on two British and two German pilots (very nice) and general comments on training. The section on combat is 21 pages long and similar to the style of the Aviation Elite Unit series, describing individual encounters. Of note, the author is good about noting claims made by each side, then resolving them with actual numbers lost (in the next section, he notes that British claims were particularly exaggerated). It is a bit difficult to figure out which side `won' the duel from the data presented in the statistics section, but the author does present a list of 19 Allied and 6 German aces who downed a number of their opponents; from these numbers, 45 Fokker Dr Is were lost in combat with Camels, versus 32 Camels shot down by Fokker Dr Is. While not complete, these numbers suggest that the Fokker triplane was at best `breaking even' with the RAF and the Germans were too outnumbered to trade one-for-one.

Although long remembered as the mount of the Red Baron, the Fokker Dr I triplane only provided the Germans with a transitory advantage in the early days of the Kaiserschlacht in March 1918 and then faded rapidly afterwards. The triplane proved to be highly maneuverable but weak structurally and mechanically, which made it much less resilient than the plucky Sopwith Camel. This volume helps to reinforce the conclusion that in warfare, there is no place for fragile weapons.
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Sopwith Camel vs Fokker Dr I: Western Front 1917-18 review 20 April 2008
By Michael J. Clinton - Published on Amazon.com
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This is a nice little comparative analysis of the Sopwith Camel and Fokker Triplane. The book purports to cover Design and Development; Technical Specifications; a history lesson covering the background of WWI when the aircraft flew and some of the pilots that flew them; and a section entitlted "Combat". There are some tidbits in this book you won't find elsewhere in other recently published WWI books. The layout is in a single column with lots of black and white period photos. That said, this book is more of a survey rather than an in depth study of the two aircraft. If you are relatively new to this period, looking for an easily digestible discussion of the relative merits of the two aircraft, this is the book you are looking for.
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A good basic overview 27 Oct 2009
By Michael Rockhill - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback
I recently had the opportunity to grab a copy of this book for my small WWI aviation collection. As already mentioned it concentrates on the 2 legendary (much inflated by the decades since) fighter aircraft and there respective pilots who faced each other in combat. While there are no color profiles there are some really nice color layouts of the cockpits. The footnotes for these could have been better. for example in the fokker cockpit, they make note of the pads on the back of the machine guns but after detailing the other instruments, it completely ignores the nifty and large gauge that pops up in between the guns. The only other thing that I found lacking was the chart in the back outlining the numbers of Camels and DR 1s shot down by the pilots of the other aircraft. The chart is not accurate according to the info in the text, as it leaves out the german pilot (and ultimately the best DR1 jockey) Josef Jacobs. In the text he is one of the profiled german pilots and states he may have shot down as many as 11 camels in the Dr1. modern litigation notwithstanding he is missing from the list, so who knows who else is too. Despite these flaws this book is worth while for the casual enthusiast and I plan on grabbing the other "duel" series books dealing with WWI. Those seeking profiles should see osprey's book on Dr 1 aces, you will not be disappointed.
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