I think you're wrong, it's progression, and why shouldn't they experiment? And the noises aren't "wacky".
OK Computer and The Bends are fantastic but this record is incredible. They have evolved and it shows
In addition, I don't think for a minute Radiohead are pretentious - if you see them in interviews they are clearly very self deprecating and aware of every musical move they make. Listen to Codex again and tell me that you don't like it - it's an amazing and beautiful piece.
Anyhow that's just my opinion lol, everyone is entitled to one
gibbons, what a lazy summation of the work of Radiohead in comparing it to that of the Warp roster. In 2000 when Radiohead released 'Kid A' that was a fair argument (they were clearly influenced by the work of Boards Of Canada & Aphex Twin) but their sound has evolved beyond recognition since then.
To me, this record sounds like the great krautrock work of bands such as Can or the more experimental side of Talking Heads, artists who have obviously held the ear of Richard D. James in the past.
And also, most of the greatest music ever commited to tape involves some discomfort & unloving, its what seperates art from mere songcraft.
Wow Gibbons - Radiohead don't talk to the heart? As an absolute music fanatic (rather than a Radiohead fanatic) I have to say that Kid A and In Rainbows are 2 of the top 10 albums of the last decade and tracks such as Everything In It's Right Place, Reckoner and the sublime Morning Bell move me more than 99% of all the other music I've bought in the past 10 years. Only played the new one once but so far it sounds up there with their best work. History will judge Radiohead to be amongst a very small elite group of artists who developed their own sound, stood apart from the crowd and truly innovated.
No need to apologise, just remember to put some breath holes in that box.
Look, everyone is entitled to their opinion in regards to music and the fact you listen to bands on the Warp roster shows you have impecible taste & don't neccesarilly conform to the mainstream (all of which I applaud). But I just took your flippant dismissal of Radiohead's recent output as a sign that maybe you've not given it a proper chance. To me their last 2 albums hold as much resemblence to the classic Warp sound as The Sugababes do.
I'm certainly no Radiohead fanboy (in fact, whisper it, but I really dislike 'The Bends') and I can look at all of their work objectively. And in that spirit I can safely claim 'King Of Limbs' a triumph.
I bow to no-one in my frenzied, slightly worrying adoration of RH. But this is an average album. The tracks are too predictable, rhythmically and structurally. There's not enough madness here, not enough wrong notes. Bloom is a belter, but doesn't really go anywhere, Lotus Flower is tremendous, classic RH, but the rest just don't give you the intensity or surprise or spine tremors that their best stuff does...listen again to the first three tracks of Kid A, then Idioteque, Pyramid Song, Knives Out, Sail to the Moon, Where I end and you begin, There There, The Gloaming, Arpeggi, Reckoner, Jigsaw...even Bangers n' Mash for pity's sake... and tell me I'm wrong. Go on. Feral is Burial sped up, Codex is a tuneless, soporific lighter-waver, Seperator is just thin. The idea of paying £30+ for this and some bits of paper is a joke. Yorke - put some sweat in to that sweat band. Greenwood - step away from the film soundtracks. Get on the next album RIGHT NOW.
'The King of Limbs': Amazing masterpiece! One of their best efforts I have to say. Like Kid A, these 8 tracks are tied together in a way that the whole is way better than the sum of its parts. And probably this is the first half of a double album yet to be announced!
Kid A was the answer to Ok Computer's questions, Amnesiac providing more clarity. 'TKOL' is the polar opposite to the colourful 'In Rainbows'.
One can tie each song to the passage of life from hectic birth (Bloom), to rhythmic childish / adoloscent 'Morning Mr Magpie', 'Little by Little' and 'Feral'. The last 4 songs are typical magical Radiohead 'adult' songs. Maturing 'Lotus Flower', Cleansing of the soul 'Codex', Childbearing 'Give up the Ghost', and 'Separator's prophetic ending : If you think this is over, then you're wrong.
I sincerely hope this unique band will continue progressing further in their art, and it's a shame some so called fans can't keep up with them.
Absolute tosh pure and simple, cannot believe the crap some people will come out with to justify a downward spiral like this . People liked ok computer and the bends etc for a reason (they were good ) . Just because a very talented band go off on a personal experiment tangent does not mean it is good . I have been losing faith since listening to kid a, that is our right as listeners . So dont make up pitiful excuses because your on their karma trip and feel for them because of that diversion . Everybody is entitled to their opinion dont you think or should we all be the same .
Have given it a few more spins and all i can say is that Lotus flower is its ONE saving grace. The rest all been done before and better , and i agree there are wacky noises just for the fun of it . Avant garde does have an expiry date in my book. So i stick with my first opinion. I was so waiting on this that my minds hype was better than the actual . Sorry its a NO from me .
I'm disappointed too, but you only have to look to the last album to see what they're capable of. I like Aphex Twin but even they sound tuneful compared to the 'GCSE Music' sounding experimental stuff from Kid A onwards. I had In Rainbows playing almost every day since it was released but TKOL isn't close to it. It's frustrating and I wish Thom would save this stuff for his solo albums which I thought he would.
I'll say though, it's exciting waiting for a new RH album to come out. You don't know what you're gonna get. The payoff of a 'Hunting Bears' is a 'Pyramid Song' and I'd happily ignore a 'Backdrifts' for a 'Sail to the Moon'. What I'm saying is at least they're not like Oasis in the way you knew exactly what to expect, but TKOL is making me think Kid A wasn't that bad. Best live gig I ever saw when they played at Lancashire CCC in June 08.
I am really suprised that so many people seem dissapointed with TKOL. I completely agree with LeopardPrince's comment that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and mine has always been that Radiohead have released all their best work post-OK Computer. 'Kid A', 'Amnesiac' (admittedly not so good), 'HTTT' & 'In Rainbows' are all exceptional peices of work. And personally I feel TKOL is a career highlight. It reminds me of the great Kraftwerk records of the 70's or early era Suicide. Throw in some Can & Talking Heads influences and I'm in sonic heaven.
I don't care that some people don't like the direction the band have taken, I just find it suprising that so many find it too avant garde. Seriously, it isn't THAT strange. In fact I'd consider 'Lotus Flower' a potential chart hit if the general public still had any interest in music.
i really love radiohead and their last album/download[in rainbows] was brilliant bit it took me a few listens to get into it, i'm on my second listen on this one and at first i thought what is this crap, but being radiohead you have to give it repeated listens, not just once a day for a week, set your cd/mp3 player to repeat and really LISTEN to the songs and it will find you and you will LOVE IT, i am listening to it now while i type and yes it is a grower. once this album has found me i shall give a proper review of this one. coz i'm pretty sure it will find me.
I always have to listen to them a lot to make sure I'm not missing something. Codex is quite something and Lotus flower is good. It's a shame there's no Jigsaw/Reckoner/Weird Fishes/15 Step/Bodysnatchers/Faust Arp/Nude...damn I love that album S - )
This album is dreadful. Radiohead have become a name to drop into conversations over the past few years, by people jumping onto the bandwagon post Kid A and, as such, criticism is scorned by those who claim to know what Radiohead is all about. I highly doubt Kid A would have received the accolades it did had it been a debut album. What was once one of the greatest rock bands of their age have devolved into a trippy, ambient dance act. They have swayed from their most solid foundation, that they are a guitar based band, and instead are now experimenting for the sake of experimenting.
Could not agree more, but its so funny reading the pathetic excuses some people will come out with to try and justify this tosh. I wish i had waited to hear samples but alas i paid £9 for a download, what a waste and cant even sell it on !!! . Never happen again , although i fear the direction of the band may.
They're not pathetic excuses, that's a patronising point of view. Fans have an emotional investment in Radiohead built up over the years and as such tend to want to make more of an effort to 'get' their weirder stuff. Sometimes it's more instant like In Rainbows and OK Computer, but it's worth the effort and I for one don't mind trying something new I might not like rather than digesting 'instant' radio friendly stuff S - )
I dont listen to music radio anymore , have not done so for say !! 5 years its all crap mate pure and simple . Occasionaly you get someone like Radiohead come along and blows the tosh outta the water . I mean can you imagine Oasis having the depth or ability to compose and play ok computer !!!!. No thought not , its because they have talent that it annoys me when i hear albums like this. I am 50 and grew up with the CREAM of uk music and seen half of em to boot . Radiohead to me are like Pink floyd were years ago pioneers of credible progressive music. But even the floyd reached limits. So im afraid i am quite entitled to call anything i hear pathetic compared to what i have heard previously in my book. To me uk music is dead and has been for years , no guts, talent, etc etc i wish it was not so but its true. Ive seen better bands down my local and thats the truth.