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Doyle Brunson
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  • Unknown Binding: 605 pages
  • Publisher: B & G Pub. Co; 2nd ed edition (1979)
  • Language English
  • ASIN: B0006XZBF0
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (15 customer reviews)

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By Dennis Littrell TOP 500 REVIEWER
Format:Paperback
When this was first published in the seventies it caused a sensation. Immediately recognized as the most ambitious poker book ever written, it nonetheless was received with irritation by some professionals because it was believed that Doyle "Texas Dolly" Brunson and his collaborators gave away too much, thereby allowing the amateurs to catch up, thereby cutting into the professional player's take.

There is more than a little truth to this accusation. Poker is an ever-evolving superset of games with the individual games changing over time as the players learn how one game and then another should be played. Write a revealing book and the old games disappear more quickly and the "rocks" have to learn the new game in order to continue to make a living. Today's most important games are hold'em and seven card stud. Both are covered in this book, hold'em quite extensively.

What sets Brunson's Super/System apart from other poker books is first the prestige and celebrity of the writers, especially Doyle himself, but also Bobby Baldwin (also a World Champion); David "Chip" Reese, Doyle's expert on seven-card stud; Joey Hawthorne on Low-Ball; David Sklanski on Hi-Low; and Mike Caro (MJC) on draw poker. I used to play with Sklanski and MJC back in the sixties in Gardena when the only legal game in the California clubs was draw poker, both lowball and jacks or better. Sklanski has gone on to be one of the game's great theoreticians and the author of several excellent books on poker. Caro, known as "the Mad Genius of Poker," has formed his own "Poker University" and is partly responsible for this book's republication, and has become quite a poker entrepreneur.

Second, there is the comprehensive coverage of the games from five card draw to no limit hold'em. Not everything is explained and some of the tricks are held back. Reese in particular, in his chapter on seven-card stud is somewhat reticent. He presents a tight strategy that is sound but withholds more aggressive strategies that, in the proper hands, would make more money.

By the way, "no limit" really means table stakes since you are NOT, as is sometimes seen in the movies, allowed to go to the bank and get some money when you hold a killer hand! In fact, no limit is really no different than pot limit expect that instead of being restricted to the amount of the pot when betting, one can, if one so chooses, push in one's entire stack. THAT does make for some interesting psychological situations! One of Doyle Brunson's main points in this book is the huge difference between set limit poker as played in the clubs and indeed as played for the so-called world championship, and no limit poker as played by the rich and the top professionals. The latter game is much more of a psychological game in that you can lose pot after small pot and yet come out ahead by winning one great big monster, and also because it takes a lot of nerve to either call a huge bet or to make a huge bet. Furthermore as you're playing along you have to be aware that at any moment the pot can suddenly mushroom to gigantic proportions. Because of these psychological factors, some of the top players at limit have never been able to make a satisfactory jump to the no limit game. In Brunson's case, he actually was adept at no limit long before he became a top limit player.

Third, there are the brilliant caricatures of the players by Stan Hunt. Just to see those again in print is worth the price of the book.

Fourth are the poker odds and statistics by Mike Caro. Believe me they are completely accurate. I and a number of others players checked and rechecked them, hoping to catch MJC in an error. No such luck! I was a little disappointed that Mike chose to recall an odds story that showed him in the right, because I, among a very small number of people, actually did beat him out of a twenty dollar bet in the sixties on some odds we were discussing. Of course Mike would "give away" money just to support his carefully cultivated image as a "madman." One of his most notorious "plays" at draw was to pretend to have a pat hand, raise the opener, and then not bet after the draw and just show down his nothing hand, thereby giving away the pot. I mean eyebrows raised and heads shook incomprehensibly at this totally "irrational" play. Yet it worked because people then would call him when he really had something.

Caro was also an expert on poker tells. He wrote a book on the subject. He would, when playing, do parodies of the other players by betting and acting as they would in an exaggerated way. Sometimes he actually did unconscious parodies of himself.

Doyle Brunson on the other hand loved the psychological struggle and just being in action. In his prime he was arguably the world's best player at both limit and no limit hold'em. He had nerves of steel and an intensely competitive nature and a deep obsessive love of the game. He overpowered his opponents with a constant energy that was always, always pushing. He had a few tricks and his knowledge of the game was among the best, but perhaps his greatest gift was his ability to bet when he knew the other guy would toss in.

What you can learn from this book about poker is really almost priceless. Even though this book is definitely dated (and today's stars are a different breed) nonetheless there is wealth of information here for the casual as well as the professional player. This is, in my opinion, still the best how-to book on poker ever written.

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This is quite a large book and it covers several different variations of poker - Draw Poker, 7-Card Stud, Lowball, High-Low Split and Texas Hold'em. Consequently only about 20% of the book relates to the most popular variation - No Limit Texas Hold'em. That's the only bit I was interested in and the only part I read; my comments therefore concentrate only that section, which is written by Doyle Brunson himself (the other parts are written by 'guest' authors who may be better). This is quite an old book written before Hold'em became popular. It is written in a sort of sloppy rambling style which incorporates a lot of poker slang; this sometimes creates ambiguity. The word TURN often refers to the FLOP and not what we nowdays call the Turn card. One of the claims for this book is that it is "written by Players not Writers". That may be the problem. Doyle Brunson is very good at poker but he cannot teach. Instead seems to use the book to show clever he is at poker, which undoubtedly he is. His belief in Extra-Sensory Perception and faith in 'luck coming in rushes' is really no help to someone trying to learn some sound principals. The relevance of his miraculous cure from cancer and his belief in Faith Healers' is also questionable. Although the book is called Super System it is not very systematic, more of a haphazard ramble. The section on Texas Hold'em is not very well structured and if there is some good advice hidden in there it is not easy to find. If you are looking for a book to help you improve your poker then this book is NOT for you.Try something else.
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Along with David Sklansky's Hold'em Poker, Doyle Brunson's Super/System, originally titled How I Made Over $1,000,000 Playing Poker, heralds the beginning of what I would call the "modern age" of poker. More than anything else, I believe that the rise in poker's popularity over the last 25 years is due to the amount of good information that has been made available about the game, and Super/System is preeminent among the information sources that brought about this surge in popularity. However, it may be asked, how does this classic stand up more than 20 years after its initial publication?

The book begins with some introductory remarks, including an abbreviated history of Brunson's poker career, before the author launches into some general strategies for winning poker. This is all stuff that today's well-read poker player will take for granted: keep emotional control, carefully watch the competition, play patiently, etc., but it's pretty much all good advice. I can't say I completely agree with Brunson's feelings about ESP, but the information he provides isn't damaging.

Then, for the bulk of the book, Brunson has someone he considers to be a true expert in a given poker game lay out their advice on how to be a consistent winner. He assigned draw poker to Mike Caro, 7 card stud to Chip Reese, the various forms of lowball to Joey Hawthorne, 7 card stud high-low split to David Sklansky, and Bobby Baldwin and Brunson himself tackle limit and no-limit Texas hold'em, respectively. This is as solid a lineup of poker players as has ever been assembled. The book concludes with a glossary and a compendium of poker numbers and charts compiled by Mike Caro, explaining the various possibilities of various occurrences in the games covered in the book.

Many of the games considered in Super/System have undergone considerable change since the book was written. When the book was published limit Hold'em structures were quite different than one would typically find today. It would be very difficult to find a draw high game spread in a card room today, and even lowball, once the core of the California poker scene, is rarely spread any more. This limits the applicability of some of the advice given in the book. The section that's probably still most relevant is Brunson's own no-limit advice, and I believe this book is still required reading to play this game at the highest level.

Don't get me wrong, this book is filled with good advice. However, much of it is about games that aren't played any more or are played differently these days. Along with structural changes, the players in these games have changed themselves, and winning strategies have had to adjust to keep up. I believe I can name a better single book on each one of the games covered in Super/System, but by no means does that mean it isn't worth reading. I also don't believe there were any books available that were better references on any of the games covered at the time Super/System was originally published. Moreover, even if the strategies presented in this book were completely outdated, which they're not, the book would still be entertaining to read and have considerable historical value. I still believe that all serious poker players should have this book in their libraries. It's just no longer the bible that it once was.

Good Luck and Play Well,

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Published on 22 July 2009 by jACK uZI
it was the bible it is not anymore
quite outdated

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Published on 5 Jun 2009 by Renaud Nicolas
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this book is the nuts, it gets inside you and you picture the scenarios there on the table - the plays work for me and I rarely have a losing night on the tables these days. Read more
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I was really disappointed by both this book and Super System 2, and find his style of writing difficult to read. Read more
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Quick note about the below review
He is wrong, it's a great book full stop.
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This is a heavyweight volume that delivers. Doyle's no-limit holdem section is pure gold in terms of strategy - albeit quirky and idiosyncratic in places (such as his legendary... Read more
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