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  • Paperback: 218 pages
  • Publisher: Onus Books (5 Aug 2013)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0956694896
  • ISBN-13: 978-0956694898
  • Product Dimensions: 13.3 x 1.2 x 20.3 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (1 customer review)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 964,387 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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Great book detailing the incoherence of notions of infinity with regards to God, from a mathematical point of view. This needed to be written because apologists consistently make mistakes in invoking meaningless or wrong ideas of infinity. Highly recommended.
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7 of 8 people found the following review helpful
Refreshing 22 Dec 2013
By Corcor - Published on
Format: Paperback
You won't need a degree in mathematics to appreciate this refreshing new take from mathematician James Lindsay.

This is a concise, yet incisive read, that exposes the important similarities between the two most provocative abstractions the human mind has ever conjured: Infinity and God. Indeed, Lindsay sets out to show that God is as much of an abstraction as infinity, since the folly of most believers is to ascribe some likeness of infinitude to God. I personally like how relentlessly Lindsay attacks a pillar of theology in William Lane Craig--arguably the guiltiest conflationist of these ideas. Craig is notorious for having his cake and eating it too, especially when it comes to claiming the universe had a marked beginning, created by a God with attributes and an existence that starkly resemble an abstraction like infinity, and yet Craig refuses the possibility that something else--perhaps a multiverse concept or otherwise--could have such qualities. From all angles Lindsay approaches Craig's absurdities.

Dot, Dot, Dot was easy to read, and is incredibly useful in pinning down exactly what God is: an abstraction. Grab a copy today.
7 of 8 people found the following review helpful
Lindsay a New Hero For Me 8 April 2014
By Kerry Shirts - Published on
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This book has the most stunning and insightful powerful arguments against putting infinity with God I have ever read. He single handedly dismantles the idiocy of trying to make God infinite. The best explanation anywhere in print, and one of the most important books written on this topic. This is a MUST read for everyone who thinks God is infinite. It can't work, and with minimal math, he demonstrates with simple logic why it is folly. A devastating destruction of William Lane Craig's Kalam argument as well. Craig simply has no clue what he is talking about. Go with Lindsay.
10 of 13 people found the following review helpful
Maths does not equal God... 20 Nov 2013
By Johnny P - Published on
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This is a really good book which sets out, for the mathematical layman, the problems with infinity and connecting the abstract concept to God. If God has infinite abilities, knowledge or attributes, then how does this effect his reality?

Maths is a description of reality, useful for human understanding. It is not reality itself, and it is high time theists stopped using maths to get to God.

Lindsay does a great job in showing this.
7 of 9 people found the following review helpful
A recomended lecture about the infinity for the layman 25 Dec 2013
By Anonymous - Published on
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(Sorry for my English, I'm not a language native).

I always have been intrigued when apologists talk about the infinity in several arguments when trying to "demonstrate" the existence of their gods, and frankly I didn't have any way to counter them, as I'm a layman in these subjects.
So when I view this ebook I thought "wow, maybe at last I can learn something about this".
The content is well written, sometimes a little deep, but understandable. I learned that there are several types of infinity, that there are infinities greater than others, that a infinite number of larger infinities can be created Infinitely, that infinity is strange, and that apologists in general don't have any idea what are they talking about, and how they use these abstract concepts is bad business for them.
So if you want to know a little more about this subject, better learn from a real mathematician and not from a religious salesman, now I feel a little more educated and confident about this concept, and I will not feel so intimidated when they blab about this in their apologetics.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
Finite Minds on Infinity: Can be Done, Even without the "Big Guy" 20 July 2014
By Aaron Adair - Published on
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Infinity is a really, really weird concept. It takes any intuitions we have and makes us say apparently silly things. But there are rigorous ways of dealing with infinity, but there are also limitations, even for the most brilliant mathematicians.

One of the points is that you never really reach infinity. No matter where you start on a number line or how long you count forward, you never even get closer to infinity. This means that it is not possible to use something finite to create an infinite set. That is, you cannot construct infinity from finite sets and operations. Hence we get lazy when writing a set that is supposed to go on forever with … (hence the title of the book). And yet we can talk about infinite sets. In fact, we can talk about different sized infinities. If that didn’t make sense to you, then you are getting the point about how weird infinity is.

In this book, mathematician James Lindsay shows many important points about how infinity is used and understood by mathematicians and how the terminology is poorly used in other contexts, especially when applied to God. In many ways the book is focused on problems with the infinite god concept, but what I found as one of the more interesting threads running through the book is the problem with mathematical Platonism. What Lindsay shows very well is how much math is a human project. We chose the various axioms and definitions, and those different choices can lead to all sorts of amazing conclusions. But showing how much math is a human invention, it shows that there isn’t really a “true form” of the set of all rational numbers and the like. We chose the rules. Historically, there have been arguments about whether negative numbers are really numbers, or if i is a number or not. Or even if zero is a number! Why do most people consider these objects numbers in the end? Because of what we can do with them. They are practical, even imaginary numbers (I couldn’t do the physics I learned in grad school without them).

Seeing the human side of math (rather than the human side of certain mathematicians) was excellent, especially when it comes to the sorts of concepts that bugger human comprehension. I value the volume for doing more than just showing what makes an infinite God incoherent, but it shows how much math is truly a human adventure and not simply that boring stuff forces on you in school.
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