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  • Hardcover: 272 pages
  • Publisher: Icon Books Ltd (5 Jun 2008)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 1840468041
  • ISBN-13: 978-1840468045
  • Product Dimensions: 20 x 13.2 x 3 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (5 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 646,841 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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Times Higher Education, Book of the Week, July 2008

'A rich mine of often-overlooked information, personal interpretations of the history of science that are provocative and sometimes astonishing.'

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'The richness and complexity of argument defy critical summary.'

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2.0 out of 5 stars The natural world as God's handiwork, 18 Nov 2010
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This review is from: Dissent Over Descent: Intelligent Design's Challenge to Darwinism (Hardcover)
Dissent over Descent: Intelligent Design's Challenge to Darwinism, by Steve Fuller, Icon Books, 2008, 280 ff.

The natural world as God's handiwork

By Howard Jones

Steve Fuller is an American philosopher, sociologist and writer on the history and philosophy of science with more than a dozen books to his credit. He is currently a professor at the University of Warwick, in England. The theme of his book is that Intelligent Design, that is, evidence of God's handiwork in the natural world, has been the inspiration behind scientific endeavour from the start. Several scientists would agree with this, but it was not Christianity as Fuller suggests but theism that was the driving force. He also regards ID as a valid concept.

Fuller's opening chapter here deals with dissent in science and religion. As Fuller appeared for the defence in the trial of Kitzmiller vs the Dover Area School District in 2005, upholding the view that ID was science and not religion or creationism, we know from the outset where he stands on the issue. These trial proceedings feature prominently in the book and are available verbatim on-line. The British Royal Society and the American National Academy of Sciences regard evolution as science and ID as non-scientific. It is the remit of science to `replace articles of faith with logical and empirical demonstrations', which it has done very successfully. It is therefore a cause for despair when supposedly intelligent people still insist on a world which is 6000 years old because it is written in the Bible when science indicates clearly it is nearly a million times older. For Fuller, `communion with God is the historic source of communal solidarity . . . a foundational insight in the discipline of sociology.'

Fuller is critical of the `paradigm' approach of science as described by Thomas Kuhn - the principle that new ideas should conform to the foundation of older ones. But, as Darwin, Einstein and Heisenberg, to quote just three, have shown, science progresses by the innovations of those who have adopted a new approach: new vision is not excluded from science. Fuller argues that there can be only one `truth' between religion and science and regards the supposition that there are multiple (or at least double) truths has `impeded the advancement of science until the modern era'.

He considers that Francis Bacon's description of the scientific method arose from Bacon's `supernaturalism'. But then he also endorses humanity's `creation in the image of God', whereas many enlightened clerics today would support the converse. He also would like to think that Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin were `spiritually aligned with Christianity' whereas in fact they were well known anti-Trinitarian deists. Religion, or at least belief in God as Creator, did indeed inspire much of the original research in science in the 17th century. But since then, in the 19th and 20th centuries, belief in God has really been an irrelevance to scientific discovery.

Overall, this book is a rather muddled mixture of biology, religion, politics, economics and sociology - and yes, I have read it! The facts, such as they are, are distorted by the author's rather bizarre viewpoints so are of little use as information. The devout Jesuit priest Teilhard de Chardin, for example, is branded as a heretic for failing to conform to Fuller's theistic interpretations; Unitarians are `heretics'; gravity is a `supernatural entity' - can there be anything more natural than gravity? There are far better books on ID in the marketplace, both for (Michael Behe, William Dembski, Stephen Meyer) and against (Richard Dawkins, Stephen Jay Gould, Michael Shermer).

Dr Howard A. Jones is the author of The Thoughtful Guide to God (2006) and The Tao of Holism (2008), both published by O Books of Winchester, UK.

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2.0 out of 5 stars Bit over the top?, 19 Jan 2012
This review is from: Dissent Over Descent: Intelligent Design's Challenge to Darwinism (Hardcover)
I don't think anyone has ever wanted me to agree with them more. It was really hard to understand his style of writing to begin with, until I realised it was built on a foundation of whinging.

Throughout the book I saw no positive reasons as to why ID should be taken seriously and I saw no real reasons (all his points were either out of date or just plain wrong) why natural selection shouldn't be the principle in which evolution is driven.

I can't tell whether this book was made to reinforce people who already agree with ID or if it is supposed to change Evolutionists mind. If it was the latter we have a problem as there is no evidence put forward to suggest ID is even a science, let alone a science strong enough to remodel one of the most excepted branches of science.

So, in the end, all this book seems to say is "Ah come on, give us a chance mate" without offering any real reason why we should.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Fascinating but Surreal Take of Evolution-Creation Debate, 21 Jun 2008
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A lot of books have been published about the evolution-creation controversy but this has got to be the most original and, in many ways, most outrageous. Fuller has been always known for his rather perverse take on things and people (esp. Thomas Kuhn, who also comes in for a whipping here) but this tops them all. Fuller is basically arguing that `Science' in the philosophically robust sense of a unified sense of reality (the kind of thing physicists still go on about) requires a belief in the privileged place of humans in the universe. This belief is by no means self-evident but requires a belief that we have some privileged relationship with whomever was responsible for the universe's creation. In this respect, Fuller argues that a belief in `intelligent design' in some broad sense - and he's not afraid to talk about God in this context -- is needed to do science. Once you accept this point, as many philosophers and scientists have, then Darwin's theory of evolution with its strong emphasis on chance-based processes starts to look strange. And I suppose that's really the point of this book, to make Darwin and Darwinism look strange. There are some truly mind-blowing moments here, including a sustained comparison between evolution and astrology in its scientific heyday (about 500 years ago). Fuller also does a good line on nasty remarks, calling modern evolutionary theory `genetically modified Darwinism' and the blog Panda's Thumb, `Darwin's brownshirts'. He even spends time pouring scorn on theistic evolutionsists like Francis Collins and Kenneth Miller, whom he regards as intellectually superficial. Fuller also makes the interesting point that no good science has ever come from atheism, and that one can go on arguing about the merits of evolution and creation without affecting the day-to-day work of science.
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