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Track Listings
| Disc: 1 |
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| 1. Elephant Talk |
| 2. Frame by Frame |
| 3. Matte Kudasai |
| 4. Indiscipline |
| 5. Thela Hun Gingeet |
| 6. The Sheltering Sky |
| 7. Discipline |
| 8. Alt. mixes of The Sheltering Sky & |
| 9. Thela Hun Gingeet by Steven Wilson |
| Disc: 2 |
| 1. Discipline |
| 2. Album new mix |
| 3. Album original mix |
| 4. Album rough mixes of complete album in original running order |
| 5. Old Grey Whistle Test videos |
Product Description
CD + DVD-Audio set. 2011 mix by Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree) plus DVD-A surround sound from original multitrack masters + bonus tracks !
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38 of 38 people found the following review helpful
Format:Audio CD
Adapting to the post-punk experimentalism of the early 1980s with genuine intelligence and enthusiasm, Discipline remains one of King Crimson's definitive statements.
Although containing elements of the avant-funk of Talking Heads, the ethnic grooves of Peter Gabriel and the constantly shifting Minimalist rhythms of Steve Reich, this frequently thrilling and complex album ultimately bears the unique imprint of the four highly individual and talented musicians at the heart of this 'Rock Gamelan' creation.
A clean and uncluttered production allows the band's power and articulate spikiness to shine through unfettered, while Fripp and Belew's guitar playing is undeniably dazzling, yet never remotely exhibitionist.
The gloriously unexpected lyricism of 'The Sheltering Sky' provides a hypnotic and mellow contrast to the rest of the album's inspired austerity, and alongside the relentless New Wave Prog Minimalist assault of 'Frame by Frame' provides my favourite moments on this extremely consistent, almost flawless, album.
A new sound then and still an influential one.
16 of 16 people found the following review helpful
Format:Audio CD
I had been talking to a friend, in the early 1980s, about bands and music we liked. He was a big King Crimson fan and recommended Starless and Bible Black and Red which I really liked when I heard them and I started to listen to other KC stuff. Then I read about a new Robert Fripp project with Bill Bruford, Adrian Belew, and Tony Levin. I was really into music that all of these people had been involved with prior to this so I was excited. When I heard that Fripp had decided that this new band represented a new King Crimson I had mixed feelings. On the one hand I thought brilliant a new version of this fantastic music but on the other I was worried that it would not live up to expectations.
I needn't have worried, this was everything I hoped it would be and more. I know that Fripp was a bit concerned that Belew's lyrical stylings and vocal delivery had become a bit too influenced by David Byrne's in places but Belew had been evrywhere from Talking Heads/Tom Tom Clube via Zappa and Bowie around this time so it was unsurprising that he picked up some influences along the way. From the opening bars of Elephant Talk this is just a fantasic rock album, and the people would get all shirty about prog rock should just get out more. The moaning of the punks who still go on and on and on and on........ about how prog rock went on.... (you get the picture) are more boring than the longest of gutar/keyboard noodlings/ drum solos I have every heard.
This album does none of that though it just delivers.
The follow up Beat was equally as good with the third installment, Three of a Perfect Pair, nearly hitting the mark but not quite (a four rather than five star effort)
The next reawakening of the Crimson Dinosaur, Thrak, where the entire KC history is distilled into one album. If you want to hear more after this these are the places to go.
I needn't have worried, this was everything I hoped it would be and more. I know that Fripp was a bit concerned that Belew's lyrical stylings and vocal delivery had become a bit too influenced by David Byrne's in places but Belew had been evrywhere from Talking Heads/Tom Tom Clube via Zappa and Bowie around this time so it was unsurprising that he picked up some influences along the way. From the opening bars of Elephant Talk this is just a fantasic rock album, and the people would get all shirty about prog rock should just get out more. The moaning of the punks who still go on and on and on and on........ about how prog rock went on.... (you get the picture) are more boring than the longest of gutar/keyboard noodlings/ drum solos I have every heard.
This album does none of that though it just delivers.
The follow up Beat was equally as good with the third installment, Three of a Perfect Pair, nearly hitting the mark but not quite (a four rather than five star effort)
The next reawakening of the Crimson Dinosaur, Thrak, where the entire KC history is distilled into one album. If you want to hear more after this these are the places to go.
12 of 12 people found the following review helpful
Format:DVD Audio
Please note these comments refer exclusively to the new CD re-master.
I was somewhat worried that 'Discipline' - one of my all-time favourite KC albums along with 'LTIA' (my all-time favourite), 'Red', 'Lizard', 'ITCOTCK', 'TCOL' & 'TPTB' - might have been spoiled by the so-called loudness wars influence that has sadly affected so many recordings these days ever since the iPod/mp3 revolution. I do have an mp3 player, BTW, which I happen to use quite a lot, loaded mostly with AAC VBR 192 kbps files.
What a relief to hear there's been some serious care taken to truly improve the sonics of this fine album. It seems as if a (not so thin) veil had been lifted from it. I actually thought the 30th Anniversary edition of 'Discipline' was quite good sonically (compared to previous editions), but this latest re-master is a real breath of fresh air.
The album sounds more organic, spacious, real, ie it is less 'clinical' and 'distant', yet it does not fall into the trappings of the let's-make-it-all-loud-and-very-clear-and-enhance-high-frequencies-to-satisfy-portable-playback tendency.
This 40th Anniversary edition is a must-have for those who value this remarkable album. I'm sure the extras are worth it and the 5.1 version of the album is very likely very well crafted, too. I was, however, particularly looking forward to the new stereo re-master, and this does not disappoint.
It is clear that both Robert Fripp & Steven Wilson have approached this project with the utmost respect and dedication as they have with previous the 40th Anniversary editions.
Been waiting patiently for the 40th Anniversary edition of LTIA, the jewel in the crown, in my opinion, of the whole KC catalogue.
Unfortunately, it seems the only album that will not be re-mastered this time round is 'The ConstruKction of Light'. If this turns out to be the case, it's a shame as 'TCOL' is a rather peculiar album which is terribly underrated. 'TCOL', in my view, does need to be 'improved' sonically - it is a gem of an album: raw, intense, powerful and, to some extent, fairly 'naive'.
I was somewhat worried that 'Discipline' - one of my all-time favourite KC albums along with 'LTIA' (my all-time favourite), 'Red', 'Lizard', 'ITCOTCK', 'TCOL' & 'TPTB' - might have been spoiled by the so-called loudness wars influence that has sadly affected so many recordings these days ever since the iPod/mp3 revolution. I do have an mp3 player, BTW, which I happen to use quite a lot, loaded mostly with AAC VBR 192 kbps files.
What a relief to hear there's been some serious care taken to truly improve the sonics of this fine album. It seems as if a (not so thin) veil had been lifted from it. I actually thought the 30th Anniversary edition of 'Discipline' was quite good sonically (compared to previous editions), but this latest re-master is a real breath of fresh air.
The album sounds more organic, spacious, real, ie it is less 'clinical' and 'distant', yet it does not fall into the trappings of the let's-make-it-all-loud-and-very-clear-and-enhance-high-frequencies-to-satisfy-portable-playback tendency.
This 40th Anniversary edition is a must-have for those who value this remarkable album. I'm sure the extras are worth it and the 5.1 version of the album is very likely very well crafted, too. I was, however, particularly looking forward to the new stereo re-master, and this does not disappoint.
It is clear that both Robert Fripp & Steven Wilson have approached this project with the utmost respect and dedication as they have with previous the 40th Anniversary editions.
Been waiting patiently for the 40th Anniversary edition of LTIA, the jewel in the crown, in my opinion, of the whole KC catalogue.
Unfortunately, it seems the only album that will not be re-mastered this time round is 'The ConstruKction of Light'. If this turns out to be the case, it's a shame as 'TCOL' is a rather peculiar album which is terribly underrated. 'TCOL', in my view, does need to be 'improved' sonically - it is a gem of an album: raw, intense, powerful and, to some extent, fairly 'naive'.
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Most Recent Customer Reviews
Discipline puts the 'King' in Crimson!
First KC album since original 'Schizoid Man' LP (apart from a CD version of same!) and thanks to 'You Tube' was able to review and hear and enjoy the KCs I had not kept up with... Read more
Published 19 days ago by DENNIS WHITLOCK
Awesome.
Steven Wilson's DTS mix is hugely complimentary.
Its as if Chapman Stick was designed for 5.1. The opening notes of Elephant Talk just flood the room. Read more
Its as if Chapman Stick was designed for 5.1. The opening notes of Elephant Talk just flood the room. Read more
Published 3 months ago by Greebo
Buy it!!
If you have DVDA capable equipment then buy this DVDA,excellent lossless 5.1 surround sound mix.Additional 5.1 DTS mix, 2.0 (stereo)lossless mix and LPCM 2. Read more
Published 7 months ago by Unclemeat
New Listeners should really look elsewhere...
Of all the albums released under the name of King Crimson this is easily the most unoriginal. Albeit there is some very good musicianship on display and one very good track indeed... Read more
Published 7 months ago by Andrew Wales
Frame By Frame
Discipline may be a King Crimson Fan Favourite but it's never been one of mine, however I thought I would buy this as it's now issued in 30th Anniversary edition with a surround... Read more
Published 7 months ago by Fletch-a-sketch
Aural Knitting
Discipline was one of those albums that I loved. But I forgot I loved it. It was always overlooked when choosing which KC album to play. Read more
Published 7 months ago by K. Eden
King Crimson: Discipline
It's an album from the eighties' line-up of King Crimson. Consequently it ventures nowhere near the usual mindless fodder perpetuated by the media. Read more
Published 7 months ago by Pestered by Amazon
I do remember one thing
So says Adrian. I do remember one thing from the early 80s when this album came out; I remember thinking, God I've never heard music like this before. Read more
Published 11 months ago by molondas
Discipline CD
Arrived on time, in v. good condition. Alas, I failed to like it any more than I did all those years ago - despite my hopes to the contrary.
Published 12 months ago by T. Wilkinson
i don't even see why this is credited to king crimson
this has about as much to do with king crimson as robbie williams or toyah wilcox. i know the lineup contains robert fripp and bill bruford but musically there is no connection. Read more
Published 13 months ago by Amhonest
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