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  • Paperback: 216 pages
  • Publisher: YMAA Publication Center (16 April 2013)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1594392110
  • ISBN-13: 978-1594392115
  • Product Dimensions: 18.5 x 1.1 x 23.8 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (1 customer review)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 492,945 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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Kris Wilder is author of seven books and the head instructor/owner of West Seattle Karate Academy. Kris has trained marital arts across the United States and Okinawa, and teaches seminars worldwide. Kris resides in Seattle, Washington with his son Jackson. Lawrence Kane is a martial artist, author, security professional, and a senior manager at an aerospace company. He has authored seven books and numerous articles on martial arts and self-defense. Lawrence resides in Seattle Washington.

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This book presented interesting concepts concerning the practical application of martial arts techniques. The alternative uses of technique were clearly laid out and provide a clear way of demonstrating the various levels of force. A point I might make is that the technique all seem to originate from the same range so maybe a closing or evading technique to interrupt the opponents momentum may have been interesting to include.
But even so this is a small point and I would recommend this book to anyone teaching self-defence applications.
Tony F, London
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14 of 14 people found the following review helpful
Cool book 22 May 2013
By Loren w Christensen - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
You can't go wrong with a Kane and Wilder book. They are a dynamic writing duo who have been putting out exceptional self-defesne books for years.

Dirty Ground illustrates with easy-to-follow photos how the same techniques can be slightly adjusted for competition, street self-defense and, unique to this book, what they term "the drunkle." The latter refers to your intoxicated uncle, a friend, or your brother, who has crossed the line with so many beers at the holiday dinner or backyard barbecue that he needs a little hands on to get him settled down. You don't want to score a point on him and you don't want to shatter his spine (well, maybe you do but you know you can't).

Equally as good as the variety of techniques they illustrate for all three objectives are the many nuggets of wisdom about fighting, self-defense, hostile people, and applicable stories about old fighters.

I've been training for nearly 50 years in the martial arts and I picked up loads of info from Dirty Ground.

Get it!
9 of 9 people found the following review helpful
May save your life, money or jail time 2 Jun 2013
By Zenpony - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
Sport, Drunkle, Combat all very different beasts. Sport is the domesticated canine who , once house trained, can be fun, a protector and a constant companion. The Drunkle is the semi ferrel dog who has the potential to hurt you or your loved ones, but also has the ability to learn to get along, if handled correctly. The Combat is the wild dingo who is looking to survive and protect his own, with no thought to what happens to you and yours in the process. 

Martial artists all have some ability to deal when faced with each beast. The challenge is knowing just which beast you are looking at and then being able to use what you know to save yourself. Your local Kungfu gold metal winner may not have the skills to kill in hand to hand combat. Your returning combat soldier may not be able to check back his instincts when the drunk uncle waves a kitchen knife at his teenager at the family bar b que. Being the local collegiate wrestler could get you jail time if you choke out and paralyze the frat boy who is attacking your girl friend. 

Buy this book, study it, train, train and train some more. Be responsible, knowledgable and safe.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
Great book on mindset, tactics and skills 29 Aug 2013
By GM2011 - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Kindle Edition Verified Purchase
The reason I was willing to write a review, and why i recommend you read this book is the first part on mindset. I really enjoyed how the authors put forth their way of thinking. The usual dichotomy of 'sport vs street' in any martial art can be more simply described as sport vs combat.

However, as we all know there are innumerable situations in the middle ground where you don't want to injure someone, nor win points in a competition. The authors of Dirty Ground label this middle ground as Drunkle (after your drunk belligerent uncle). It also applies to quite a few self defense scenarios.

The reality is each situation is different (duh). Each situation needs a response on a force continuum that, for most people, includes verbal deescalation, non lethal attack, and then deadly force. Mouth-fist-OC spray-glock 19.

This book does a great job of explaining all of that in better terms than you will likely find on an internet forum. BJJ guy says "since 99% of all fights always go to the ground, i only do BJJ". Krav Maga type guy says "BJJ is a sport, I'm interested in self defense! the ground is where your head gets kicked in". The reality says "know both, be able to react quickly and violently if the situation calls for it, ALSO (as this book goes into fantastic depth) be able to know when to merely control and stop aggression from uncle jim the drunk.

This book explained that void quite well. Both the BJJ player and Krav Maga ball kicker need to realize that neither are 100% correct. There are different approaches to problems, different skill sets to be had, and specializing in one isnt the correct answer for anything in reality. Be prepared to act quickly, intelligently, and with the proper mindset. Read this book to get a glimpse of how to do that.

Oh, and the rest of the book was good, too. (Some skills demonstrations for the three mindsets - judo sporting, drunkle controlling, and combat injuring)
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
Clean Presentation in Dirty Ground 6 July 2013
By Adam Bockler - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
Martial arts instructors teach some pretty brutal moves.

Some show the moves without providing much context. "This is the person's attack. This is your defense. Practice it," they say.

But self-defense is much more nuanced than that.

Lawrence Kane and Kris Wilder's latest book, Dirty Ground: The Tricky Space Between Sport and Combat, addresses the details of a self-defense situation. More than just how to respond to an attack, they look at the types of applications that can be performed with certain techniques. These are broken down into sport and combat.

In a sport environment, Kane and Wilder take into account the attributes of any sport: pageantry, timelines, scoring, and the ability for competitors to compete again after the match.

"Combat differs in that it is an open and armed conflict with intent to kill the enemy and/or destroy their infrastructure," the authors write. "Those who (survive) are often never the same again, requiring lengthy rehabilitation for serious physical, or in some cases, mental injuries."

The third type of application is the drunkle, who represents your "drunk uncle" - somebody you might need to tame when he's wild, but not somebody you would want to do any serious damage.

The latter half of the book shows Kane and Wilder's depictions of what they think certain applications would look like. They cover a total of 12 techniques - including osoto gari, hammerlock and ogoshi - and break them down for how you might deal with them in a sport environment, against a drunkle, or in a full-fledged combat scenario.

As safely as they can be practiced in the dojo, this book makes a great training companion as the authors show these techniques step by step.

While some may argue the meat of this book is the applications, I found the "Highly Selective Overview of Combative Arts Throughout History" very informative and well-written. The authors cover some of the classic martial arts (jujitsu, judo) and boxing. They discuss pankration, sambo and catch wrestling, arts I've heard of but have not formally studied.

As usual, Kane and Wilder have written an insightful book that deserves a spot on your bookshelf. Do yourself a favor and pick this up today.

Full disclosure: I was given a copy of this book in order to write a review.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
a really solid book that will serve you for a long time 19 Aug 2013
By Zach Zinn - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
This seems like a smaller sized book, but in terms of the information conveyed it really isn't.

There is a ton here, not only are some very solid principles expounded upon and brought to light in the beginning part of the book, they are fleshed out entirely in the photos and explanations of the techniques that follow.

The first part of the book is exactly what i've come to expect from Kane and Wilder (and in this case contributor McCray too!), solid, in depth information on context of violence, logical principles for figuring out your own training, and ways to apply them. The "Macto Bicallis" bit is especially good, information that is so important it will leave you wondering "why haven't I thought of it like this before" - the authors are masters at making the complicated simple and digestible.. a much needed thing in a martial arts world that seems to thrive of spectacle and complexity.

In addition to the stuff above, contextualizing sport v.s violence, and provoking the reader to ask themselves important questions, the books is also an excellent technical manual of standing grappling technique, I have to say probably one of the best modern books i've seen on the subject in terms of a workable set of reliable techniques, well explained.

This is really a great buy, i'd recommend it both for people who want a new perspective on their martial arts or martial sport training, as well as people who would like a small curriculum of practical standing grappling techniques to work on, or better yet..buy it for a combination of the two.
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