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Jackie McLean Audio CD
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  • Audio CD (9 Aug 2004)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Content/Copy-Protected CD
  • Label: Blue Note
  • ASIN: B0002GAF8Y
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 343,042 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

1. Love Snd Hate
2. Esoteric
3. Kahlil The Prophet
4. Riff Raff

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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
By Paul Bowes TOP 500 REVIEWER
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In 1963 Jackie McLean's alto playing was still rooted in hard bop orthodoxy but moving - as the title of this recording suggests - towards the freer aesthetic pioneered by Ornette Coleman. The result here is a conservative take on what a post-bop jazz might sound like. The four compositions are interesting, although for me the opener, 'Love and Hate', is the stand-out track - a minor ballad that sounds at times like a blues funeral march with a strong modal flavour. On the more up-tempo numbers the hard bop influences tend to dominate.

Like other experimental groups of the time, McLean's quintet ditches the piano. Hutcherson's vibes supply something of the missing comping, but the sparer, lighter sound of the vibes produces a clear, loose ensemble sound with lots of internal space.

Listeners who like this should investigate McLean's earlier 'One Step Beyond' and Moncur's later 'Evolution', both of which feature McLean, Moncur and Hutcherson and were recorded in the same year.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Interesting destination 6 Dec 2010
By TR
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This album showcases Jackie McLean moving in a slightly different direction to his previous blue note albums and it is a rewarding move. Due to a drugs bust JM had lost his NY city cabaret card so couldn't form a regular band, this meant that he often worked with up and coming players who often went on to other things, such as Tony Williams and Charles Tolliver.

For a brief period he formed a working relationship with a nucleous of Grachan Moncur III and Bobby Hutcherson that appear on blue note albums: Evolution, One step byeond and this album. On these records JM was incorporating some of the new ideas of John Coltrane and Ornette Coleman but was using them to re-invigorate his own style of playing rather than fully embracing them. Of the three albums this group of players recorded this is my favourite as it is closer to straight ahead Jazz and has the brilliant drumming of Roy Haynes.

The use of alto sax combined with trombone and vibes in a quintet gives a unique sound. There is lots of space that allows the music to breath with the vibes adding colourful touches rather than dominating the music as a piano can sometimes do when it emphasises the changes.

There are only 4 tracks on the album but this works well as each is unique and avoids the pitfalls of so many albums which are hindered by filler or alternative tracks. Grachan Moncur III's compositions (3 of the 4) are interesting - especially Love and hate a superb slow opening track that has a late night feel to it. Strongly recommended.
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5.0 out of 5 stars One of the best jazz records ever made!!! 22 Feb 2005
By Jakob Hellberg - Published on Amazon.com
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Jackie McLean was one of the finest talent scouts in jazz history. Tony Williams, Charles Tolliver and Jack DeJoohnette were some of the musicians that made their name in McLeans groups. This record features two other incredible musicians he discovered:Vibist Bobby Hutcherson and (most importantly) trombonist and composer Grachan MoncurIII. Grachan wrote dark, almost mysterious sounding "modal" compositions that used very few chords and still sound unique today. Bobbys spare, spacey vibe sound also added a totally unique flavour. McLean had broken free of conventional hard-bop with the awesome "Let freedom ring". He then formed a group consisting of Williams, Moncur and Hutcherson (all almost totally unknown at that point),. The first record all three made together was "One Step Beyond" (out of print). That record consisted of music that was definitely steeped in the Bop tradition but also took it's cues from avantgarde jazz with Williams constantly changing drum patterns, McLean blowing wild, intense solos and Hutcherson giving the music a totally different sound with dissonant, percussive vibes. The fact that the group used vibes instead of piano was very important for the overall sound. They made an even greater record under Moncurs leadership, "Evolution" (also OOP, WHY???) which added Lee Morgan in a surprisingly explorative mood. If one wants to know where Dolphy got his inspiration for "Out to Lunch!", look no further than these records...

This record doesn't feature Williams, instead it's veteran Roy Haynes who drums which gives the record a somewhat more conventional feel. It doesn't matter much though, the group plays three awesome Moncur compositions and McLeans playing is more relaxed and secure in this environment than on the earlier records where his high-pitched screams sometimes becomes grating. Overall, this is a must-have!!!

PS Blue Note HAS to reissue "Evolution" and "One Step Beyond"!!! Records as good as these don't deserve to be out of print. Oh yeah, re-issue "It's Time" also...
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5.0 out of 5 stars avant garde jazz 1963 5 Oct 2001
By allismile0 - Published on Amazon.com
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One of my personal favorite jazz albums.
Love and Hate set the record off with a slow tempo meditation on its subject- setting the tone of the song is Hutcherson's vibes curdling out a slow painful vamp. Giving space to the song is Roy Haynes. Sparse drumming adding to the meditative feel of the song for the horns to solo on top of. McLean really seems to shine on this song weaving his solo so finely, that although played with great restraint comes through an intense passion.
The song is followed by Esoteric; by itself an incredible composition with all it's intricacies, I could imagine a difficult song for a band to play much in the same way a Thelonious Monk song would be. Similar as well to Hat and Beard by Eric Dolphy off of the Out to Lunch album which was release a year later (and who's inspiration of that song came from Monk)- Out to Lunch came of the same label (blue note) but was a more celebrated album I suppose for its more recognized line up of names- although Bobby Hutcherson was present for both. Esoteric is a great example of a superb composition both rhythmically and melodically that demands much of its players but when things fall into place those things really take off.
The third song on the set is in a much more traditional hard bop tone that was popular at the time. The lone Jackie McLean composition, Kahlil the Prophet; keeping in a 4/4 beat, the song seems mostly a platform for fantastic soloing.
Finally there's Riff Raff. The least ambitious of the three Moncur songs, not to say it doesn't go somewhere terrific. Very easy going in it's blues groove, it works as a good counterpoint to the "deeper" Esoteric and Love and Hate. Once again some great solos, Hutcherson's especially takes the whole groove and puts it on its head.
The album works with one side of avant garde jazz and the second side more traditional and solo based jazz. The playing is immaculate and inspired something that can be expected from just about any album you get from the Blue Note or Impulse labels of this time period. But this things gotta bug to it.
10 of 11 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars avant garde jazz 1963 7 Oct 2004
By allismile0 - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
One of my personal favorite jazz albums.

Love and Hate set the record off with a slow tempo meditation on its subject- setting the tone of the song is Hutcherson's vibes curdling out a slow painful vamp. Giving space to the song is Roy Haynes. Sparse drumming adding to the meditative feel of the song for the horns to solo on top of. McLean really seems to shine on this song weaving his solo so finely, that although played with great restraint comes through an intense passion.

The song is followed by Esoteric; by itself an incredible composition with all it's intricacies, I could imagine a difficult song for a band to play much in the same way a Thelonious Monk song would be. Similar as well to Hat and Beard by Eric Dolphy off of the Out to Lunch album which was release a year later (and who's inspiration of that song came from Monk)- Out to Lunch came of the same label (blue note) but was a more celebrated album I suppose for its more recognized line up of names- although Bobby Hutcherson was present for both. Esoteric is a great example of a superb composition both rhythmically and melodically that demands much of its players but when things fall into place those things really take off.

The third song on the set is in a much more traditional hard bop tone that was popular at the time. The lone Jackie McLean composition, Kahlil the Prophet; keeping in a 4/4 beat, the song seems mostly a platform for fantastic soloing.

Finally there's Riff Raff. The least ambitious of the three Moncur songs, not to say it doesn't go somewhere terrific. Very easy going in it's blues groove, it works as a good counterpoint to the "deeper" Esoteric and Love and Hate. Once again some great solos, Hutcherson's especially takes the whole groove and puts it on its head.

The album works with one side of avant garde jazz and the second side more traditional and solo based jazz. The playing is immaculate and inspired something that can be expected from just about any album you get from the Blue Note or Impulse labels of this time period. But this things gotta bug to it.
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