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Designing with Stylesheets, Tables and Frames (Laura Lemay's Web Workshop) [Paperback]

Molly E. Holzschlag

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Jun 1997 1575212498 978-1575212494 Pap/Cdr
Intended for the experienced Web developer, this book teaches the basics of stylesheets, tables, and frames, and shows how to put them to practical use in a wide variety of everyday Web design situations. The CD-ROM includes an electronic version of "Teach Yourself Web Publishing with HTML 3.2 in 14 Days" plus a hand-picked selection of the best Web publishing tools and utilities.

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5.0 out of 5 stars I loved this book - learned an awful lot very quickly. 4 May 1998
By Joyce Richter (joycer@gwsi.com) - Published on Amazon.com
I am an experienced technical writer (10 years of software documentation) creating my first web page. I needed to learn tables and frames quickly. After patiently following the instructions (from Chapter 1 on), and manually entering the code from the samples provided in this book, I have learned enough html to do a page from scratch, and can implement tables and frames. In fact, I re-designed my web page twice-first using tables, then frames.
It's not a perfect book... I think I found all the typos in the code... but, searching for the errors reinforced my debugging skills. And nothing takes away the thrill of viewing the page and having everything click into place. Instant gratification!
All I can say to those who didn't like this book, is their learning styles must be different from mine. For me, it worked. And, I think manually entering the code (except for cheating on the Greeked text) did a lot to reinforce the concepts. This is a hands-on project... I am not a programmer, although I have had some programming classes. I certainly couldn't have grasped the elements by speed reading through the code. And, the graphics helped re-assure me I had everything in the right place.
This is my second Lemay book, and I can assure you I will be checking out the other titles.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Good Hype != Good Book 10 Aug 1997
By A Customer - Published on Amazon.com
I read a lot of books and am always looking for something new. After I purchase a book I like to come to amazon to make comments. My comments are usually positive. I have found there are a lot of good books out there. When I came across this book I was looking for something to help me with these exact issues: style sheets, frame and table. I wanted a book that explored design rather than concept and I thought I would find it in this book. I read all the comments regarding this book and think that someone is doing a good job of trying to build hype for the book. First they trash it then they praise it. Then they trash it then they praise it.

In all honesty I must say this is the first book I have read recently that was really disappointing. Truth be told only a single chapter is this book has anything to do with style sheets. That chapter is chapter 3, "In Vogue: Cascading Style Sheets." This chapter dismisses style sheets as something that isn't quite there yet stating most browsers don't support style sheets while dismissing the fact that Internet Explorer 3.0/4.0 both support style sheets and so does Navigator 4.0 which does/will account for 90% of the browsers out there. More often than not the author discourages the use of style sheets yet at the same time invites you to try them. Strange to say the least. Beyond this chapter, there are other chapters that mention style sheets in passing, but nothing truly useful. By the time I finished the book, I was wondering what happened to the rest of the style sheet discussion. The author only touches on about a third of what you can do with style sheets leaving out two thirds of the discussion. The book is made worse because the author never even mentions the omitted material. For a 600 page book with style sheets as the first item in the title, this book does not measure up.

The book spends a lot of time on case studies of Web sites. There's hundreds of pages of nothing but source code and screen shots. Truth be told most of this is not explained. It is just presented. In summary Designing With Style Sheets Tables and Frames is a big book that really doesn't cover a lot of ground or present any new material and someone has done a good job of trying to build hype ala Create Killer Web Sites so definitely look before you leap.
2.0 out of 5 stars Hand holding has reached a new level! 4 Aug 1997
By A Customer - Published on Amazon.com
Talk about a load of bunk. Raise your hand to save your wristwatch it is to late to save your boots, your knee deep already. I don't know how anyone except the author and her friends could claim this book is good.
The book is chocked full of filler, from useless screen shots to code samples taken straight off the Web. Case in point, I read this entire book without ever having to leave Borders. How did I read a 600-page book in 3 hours? Easy. There's hundreds of pages of HTML cut and pasted from sites on the Web on the pretense of helping you and I learn Web design with style sheets tables and frames. The only problem is that the author doesn't bother to explain it--ANY OF IT. There's entire chapters that begin with nifty intros, THAT LAST ABOUT A PAGE, then sink into the routine of: Here's the Splash page, enter this, enter this, enter this. Here's a screen shot of an image on the splash page. Here's a screenshot of another image on the splash page. Here's a screenshot of the splash page. Here's the second page, enter this, enter this, enter this. Here's a screen shot of an image on the page. Here's a screenshot of another image on the page. Here's a screenshot of the page. Here's the third page, enter this, enter this, enter this. Here's a screen shot of an image on the page. Here's a screenshot of another image on the page. Here's a screenshot of the page. Here the fourth page enter this, enter this, enter this. Here's a screen shot of an image on the page. Here's a screenshot of another image on the page. Here's a screenshot of the page. THERE, I'VE JUST SAVED YOU $39.99.

The question I kept asking myself at about page 200 was why? Why the heck would anyone create a book so full of uterly useless garbage?
5.0 out of 5 stars Incredibly simple and creative tool for web design... 4 Aug 1997
By A Customer - Published on Amazon.com
As in her last book, Molly has once again created a masterpiece of text which those of us who are also authors, can truly appreciate as well as the readers. Attention to simplicity was so keenly delivered with her consistent finesse in style.

Our firm has shown this book to good number of readers from various levels of web experience. With but one exception, there was nothing but aplause for the style and creativity shown in this book.

There is no amount of splash with color, just plain simple and direct ilustrations with a CD for reference to all illustrations provided. Four of our readers who reviewed the book expressed the
fact that they were able to apply information from the very first chapter within the first 10 minutes of reading the book! "I was so impressed with the section of frames." "Until now, I was reluctant to create frames due to my lack of understanding oh how the structuring of frames is done." "Within minutes of reading the chapter on frames I developed my first frames page!" stated one of our reviewers.

I question the ethical credibity of some of these reviews I see here by people who do not even provide their email address for feedback. They slam the author's efforts rather than posting feedback in a constructive manner to improve a particular publication they dislike.

I my ownself have learned an abundance of information from these books by this author and stand behind her work 110%. Those of you who know who The Mad Monk is, you know too well that I tell it like it is. If it is a poor creation, I will let my readers know, but in a "constructive" manner of critique.
1.0 out of 5 stars Junk science is its worst! 1 Sep 1997
By A Customer - Published on Amazon.com
For a book that is supposed to help you, this one sure doesn't. Reminds me of a paint by numbers set my children would use. The only problem is that it has about as much detailed instruction as well. This book is an example of hand holding at its peak. The author walks you through the process of creating VERY basic tables, frames and stylesheets.

Mixed in with all the hand holding are discussions that few beginners will understand. Sort of like the author has multiple personality disorder and one personality wrote for beginners then the second personality went back and added all sorts of stuff that wasn't explained to be spiteful. The book is written for beginners yet assumes so much that only an expert will have any idea of where the author is going with specific points. The only problem is that if you know the basics already you do NOT need this book.
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